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Donenfeld" Cc: James Bottomley , Jarkko Sakkinen , David Howells , kernel@pengutronix.de, Sumit Garg , Pankaj Gupta , David Gstir , Michael Walle , John Ernberg , James Morris , "Serge E. Hallyn" , =?UTF-8?Q?Horia_Geant=c4=83?= , Herbert Xu , "David S. Miller" , Jan Luebbe , Eric Biggers , Richard Weinberger , Franck LENORMAND , Matthias Schiffer , keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, Pascal Van Leeuwen References: <20220513145705.2080323-1-a.fatoum@pengutronix.de> <20220513145705.2080323-3-a.fatoum@pengutronix.de> <1c6a5ce2564c29a06eca255072a379351a5fc026.camel@linux.ibm.com> <4fe5564e860eb3093a88528ba1d30364d57723e0.camel@linux.ibm.com> From: Ahmad Fatoum In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a0a:edc0:0:900:1d::77 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: a.fatoum@pengutronix.de X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on metis.ext.pengutronix.de); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PTX-Original-Recipient: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, RDNS_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org Hello Mimi, On 17.05.22 21:49, Mimi Zohar wrote: > On Tue, 2022-05-17 at 20:30 +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: >> Hi Mimi, >> >> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 02:21:08PM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote: >>> On Tue, 2022-05-17 at 19:38 +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: >> Apologies in advance if I've missed the mark here; I'm not very familiar >> with this thread or what it's driving at. If the simple question was >> just "is get_random_bytes_wait() good to use?" the answer is just "yes" >> and I can disappear and stop confusing things. :) > > My apologies for your having been brought into this discussion without > having properly reviewed and summarized the previous thread. As you > saw there is a long history. > > Jarrko, Ahmad, "Trusted" keys, by definition, are based on the TPM > RNG. If CAAM trusted key support wants to use kernel RNG by default, > that's fine. However defining and allowing a boot command line option > to use kernel RNG instead of the TPM RNG, needs to be configurable. The use of kernel RNG for TPM Trusted Keys is already opt-in. The default is trusted.rng=default, which maintains existing behavior. Users who want to use kernel RNG instead need to explicitly specify trusted.rng=kernel. What more is needed? Cheers, Ahmad > > thanks, > > Mimi > > -- Pengutronix e.K. | | Steuerwalder Str. 21 | http://www.pengutronix.de/ | 31137 Hildesheim, Germany | Phone: +49-5121-206917-0 | Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 | Fax: +49-5121-206917-5555 |