Received: by 2002:a05:6358:d09b:b0:dc:cd0c:909e with SMTP id jc27csp13885832rwb; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 13:19:19 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6Eh0NBWtwV9F5IytjnC/tpv5ID0vGv8kSv4CM72SoeEYauhCb2MREkPql06BCJGpEDyPmV X-Received: by 2002:a63:1a5a:0:b0:456:f79e:4e95 with SMTP id a26-20020a631a5a000000b00456f79e4e95mr23851851pgm.607.1669583958878; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 13:19:18 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1669583958; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=t2NV26zKsvvbAMdCdC6jxP5LT+tL6Qu4xdCYym8VS4nYxvHmj8JShbE5QPE820kj7J BvFpEu8Wg4NyMdy4Py66pwOBhUTiDMUa3onk9fTo8zcVlUY7jgI4XIZuPXU30WIOxeJV kIwmONyPzFnNd0EECXpnpPZfeeJVgsvt3tY1HdK/mw4YdLi7W86PyA6euZg7hfZz3RU5 egpHq0nF1wbv7ObB9hDhyCMZhGQ1ZoMZmDlgMrsP6mtBAeYOWhWgIuh6N8z1svlRrQY4 LeV45UC+iNOb7SMZVjA48EtEVt1yHWmAJ0dzzwbdv5prJQTD32GsR+0QPPnxnmgyR/9h nE/g== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=/586zCYNnUFrmrcj/BXX0rMjOQPJGrAEOaK2qNpG/og=; b=ieUnjAdDiFUGN9u47uznVNSgtIJgKtHbGfcTy30x8pnqruz+OwJF+MuIxn8uG7awaT JYISxR3wfZNkuh2EdM+FZI/m3gIp9B0ofY2N2C1owSMcSS3jjQuHl7U7EahX7K5bThxR tzK5+uSuD/+D4ni57M59v7wU8JUJ2eCYdlhE4MxZO+By7jFb+ClmbEog/VU33r5xojZT OlhwZ+GlvZ2ajgniAun22POXFUzJDP/JvfcaidFa7xJzVN36m/5I3BXyYlZXHx3q+Mkr YmxSbwAvM4QT5Wrn2RdX075B0txM04hiYMT29bJBCNppK8bcsgOX9kShU7ZMDARul7EF X31g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-crypto-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-crypto-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from out1.vger.email (out1.vger.email. [2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i7-20020a63d447000000b00434f41f6981si10087393pgj.360.2022.11.27.13.19.04; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 13:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-crypto-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-crypto-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-crypto-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229610AbiK0VMr (ORCPT + 99 others); Sun, 27 Nov 2022 16:12:47 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58164 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229600AbiK0VMq (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Nov 2022 16:12:46 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 244 seconds by postgrey-1.37 at lindbergh.monkeyblade.net; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 13:12:45 PST Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk (cavan.codon.org.uk [176.126.240.207]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DE59BC86; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 13:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by cavan.codon.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3317D424A3; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 21:12:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2022 21:12:44 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" Cc: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ardb@kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/5] efi: stub: use random seed from EFI variable Message-ID: <20221127211244.GB32253@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20221122020404.3476063-1-Jason@zx2c4.com> <20221122020404.3476063-3-Jason@zx2c4.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20221122020404.3476063-3-Jason@zx2c4.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 03:04:01AM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > + * We delete the seed here, and /hope/ that this causes EFI to > + * also zero out its representation on disk. This is somewhat Several implementations I've worked with simply append a deletion marker or append a new variable value until the variable store fills up entirely, at which point a garbage collection event is either run or scheduled for the next reboot. The spec doesn't define how this is handled so unfortunately I don't think there's any way to get a pony here.