2020-04-15 23:06:29

by Jan Kara

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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/8] fs/ext4: Disallow verity if inode is DAX

On Mon 13-04-20 21:00:24, [email protected] wrote:
> From: Ira Weiny <[email protected]>
>
> Verity and DAX are incompatible. Changing the DAX mode due to a verity
> flag change is wrong without a corresponding address_space_operations
> update.
>
> Make the 2 options mutually exclusive by returning an error if DAX was
> set first.
>
> (Setting DAX is already disabled if Verity is set first.)
>
> Signed-off-by: Ira Weiny <[email protected]>
> ---
> fs/ext4/verity.c | 3 +++
> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/fs/ext4/verity.c b/fs/ext4/verity.c
> index dc5ec724d889..ce3f9a198d3b 100644
> --- a/fs/ext4/verity.c
> +++ b/fs/ext4/verity.c
> @@ -113,6 +113,9 @@ static int ext4_begin_enable_verity(struct file *filp)
> handle_t *handle;
> int err;
>
> + if (WARN_ON_ONCE(IS_DAX(inode)))
> + return -EINVAL;
> +

Hum, one question, is there a reason for WARN_ON_ONCE()? If I understand
correctly, user could normally trigger this, couldn't he?

Honza

> if (ext4_verity_in_progress(inode))
> return -EBUSY;
>
> --
> 2.25.1
>
--
Jan Kara <[email protected]>
SUSE Labs, CR


2020-04-16 00:15:30

by Theodore Ts'o

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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/8] fs/ext4: Disallow verity if inode is DAX

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 02:00:02PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Mon 13-04-20 21:00:24, [email protected] wrote:
> > From: Ira Weiny <[email protected]>
> >
> > Verity and DAX are incompatible. Changing the DAX mode due to a verity
> > flag change is wrong without a corresponding address_space_operations
> > update.
> >
> > Make the 2 options mutually exclusive by returning an error if DAX was
> > set first.
> >
> > (Setting DAX is already disabled if Verity is set first.)
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Ira Weiny <[email protected]>
> > ---
> > fs/ext4/verity.c | 3 +++
> > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/fs/ext4/verity.c b/fs/ext4/verity.c
> > index dc5ec724d889..ce3f9a198d3b 100644
> > --- a/fs/ext4/verity.c
> > +++ b/fs/ext4/verity.c
> > @@ -113,6 +113,9 @@ static int ext4_begin_enable_verity(struct file *filp)
> > handle_t *handle;
> > int err;
> >
> > + if (WARN_ON_ONCE(IS_DAX(inode)))
> > + return -EINVAL;
> > +
>
> Hum, one question, is there a reason for WARN_ON_ONCE()? If I understand
> correctly, user could normally trigger this, couldn't he?

Tes, the WARN_ON_ONCE isn't appropriate here. We should also disallow
setting the DAX flag if the inode has the verity flag set already.

And if we need to decide what to if the file system is mounted with
"-o dax=always" and the verity file system feature is enabled. We
could either (a) reject the mount with if the mount option is given
and the file system can have verity files, or (b) make "-o dax=always"
mean "-o dax=mostly_always" and treat verity files as not using dax
even when dax=always is selected.

Also, in theory, we *could* support dax and verity files, but
verifying the crypto checksums of all of the pages when the file is
first accessed, and then marking that in a flag in the in-inode flag.
Or we could have a per-page flag stored somewhere that indicates that
the page has been verified, so that we can on-demand verify the
integrity of the page. Given that verity files are read-only, the
main reason why someone might want to use dax && verity would be to
reduce page cache overhead of system files; if executing out of dax
pages doesn't have significant performance impacts, this might be
something which might be a nice-to-have. I don't think we need to
worry about this for now; if there are use cases where mobile devices
want to use dax && verity, we can let them figure out how to make it
work. I'm just pointing out that it's not really a completely insane
combination.

Cheers,

- Ted

2020-04-16 01:00:19

by Ira Weiny

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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/8] fs/ext4: Disallow verity if inode is DAX

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:55:25AM -0400, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 02:00:02PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Mon 13-04-20 21:00:24, [email protected] wrote:
> > > From: Ira Weiny <[email protected]>
> > >
> > > Verity and DAX are incompatible. Changing the DAX mode due to a verity
> > > flag change is wrong without a corresponding address_space_operations
> > > update.
> > >
> > > Make the 2 options mutually exclusive by returning an error if DAX was
> > > set first.
> > >
> > > (Setting DAX is already disabled if Verity is set first.)
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Ira Weiny <[email protected]>
> > > ---
> > > fs/ext4/verity.c | 3 +++
> > > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/fs/ext4/verity.c b/fs/ext4/verity.c
> > > index dc5ec724d889..ce3f9a198d3b 100644
> > > --- a/fs/ext4/verity.c
> > > +++ b/fs/ext4/verity.c
> > > @@ -113,6 +113,9 @@ static int ext4_begin_enable_verity(struct file *filp)
> > > handle_t *handle;
> > > int err;
> > >
> > > + if (WARN_ON_ONCE(IS_DAX(inode)))
> > > + return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> >
> > Hum, one question, is there a reason for WARN_ON_ONCE()? If I understand
> > correctly, user could normally trigger this, couldn't he?
>
> Tes, the WARN_ON_ONCE isn't appropriate here. We should also disallow
> setting the DAX flag if the inode has the verity flag set already.

This is taken care of and is part of ext4_enable_dax() after this series.

>
> And if we need to decide what to if the file system is mounted with
> "-o dax=always" and the verity file system feature is enabled. We
> could either (a) reject the mount with if the mount option is given
> and the file system can have verity files, or (b) make "-o dax=always"
> mean "-o dax=mostly_always" and treat verity files as not using dax
> even when dax=always is selected.

The later is implemented in this series... Not the most explicit thing. :-(

>
> Also, in theory, we *could* support dax and verity files, but
> verifying the crypto checksums of all of the pages when the file is
> first accessed, and then marking that in a flag in the in-inode flag.
> Or we could have a per-page flag stored somewhere that indicates that
> the page has been verified, so that we can on-demand verify the
> integrity of the page. Given that verity files are read-only, the
> main reason why someone might want to use dax && verity would be to
> reduce page cache overhead of system files; if executing out of dax
> pages doesn't have significant performance impacts, this might be
> something which might be a nice-to-have. I don't think we need to
> worry about this for now; if there are use cases where mobile devices
> want to use dax && verity, we can let them figure out how to make it
> work. I'm just pointing out that it's not really a completely insane
> combination.

Fair enough. The main issue I need to correct here is to keep the 2 mutually
exclusive. Which AFAICT is not true today. This makes it so even without the
per-file enablement.

Ira

>
> Cheers,
>
> - Ted

2020-04-16 01:04:57

by Ira Weiny

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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/8] fs/ext4: Disallow verity if inode is DAX

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 02:00:02PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Mon 13-04-20 21:00:24, [email protected] wrote:
> > From: Ira Weiny <[email protected]>
> >
> > Verity and DAX are incompatible. Changing the DAX mode due to a verity
> > flag change is wrong without a corresponding address_space_operations
> > update.
> >
> > Make the 2 options mutually exclusive by returning an error if DAX was
> > set first.
> >
> > (Setting DAX is already disabled if Verity is set first.)
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Ira Weiny <[email protected]>
> > ---
> > fs/ext4/verity.c | 3 +++
> > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/fs/ext4/verity.c b/fs/ext4/verity.c
> > index dc5ec724d889..ce3f9a198d3b 100644
> > --- a/fs/ext4/verity.c
> > +++ b/fs/ext4/verity.c
> > @@ -113,6 +113,9 @@ static int ext4_begin_enable_verity(struct file *filp)
> > handle_t *handle;
> > int err;
> >
> > + if (WARN_ON_ONCE(IS_DAX(inode)))
> > + return -EINVAL;
> > +
>
> Hum, one question, is there a reason for WARN_ON_ONCE()? If I understand
> correctly, user could normally trigger this, couldn't he?

Removed and added to the verity doc.
Ira

>
> Honza
>
> > if (ext4_verity_in_progress(inode))
> > return -EBUSY;
> >
> > --
> > 2.25.1
> >
> --
> Jan Kara <[email protected]>
> SUSE Labs, CR