From: Josef Bacik Subject: Re: transaction batching performance & multi-threaded synchronous writers Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:58:58 -0400 Message-ID: <20080714165858.GA10268@unused.rdu.redhat.com> References: <487B7B9B.3020001@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org To: Ric Wheeler Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:45770 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757587AbYGNRRj (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:17:39 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <487B7B9B.3020001@gmail.com> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:15:23PM -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: > > Here is a pointer to the older patch & some results: > > http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-fsdevel/msg13121.html > > I will retry this on some updated kernels, but would not expect to see a > difference since the code has not been changed ;-) > I've been thinking, the problem with this for slower disks is that with the patch I provided we're not really allowing multiple things to be batched, since one thread will come up, do the sync and wait for the sync to finish. In the meantime the next thread will come up and do the log_wait_commit() in order to let more threads join the transaction, but in the case of fs_mark with only 2 threads there won't be another one, since the original is waiting for the log to commit. So when the log finishes committing, thread 1 gets woken up to do its thing, and thread 2 gets woken up as well, it does its commit and waits for it to finish, and thread 2 comes in and gets stuck in log_wait_commit(). So this essentially kills the optimization, which is why on faster disks this makes everything go better, as the faster disks don't need the original optimization. So this is what I was thinking about. Perhaps we track the average time a commit takes to occur, and then if the current transaction start time is < than the avg commit time we sleep and wait for more things to join the transaction, and then we commit. How does that idea sound? Thanks, Josef