From: Eric Sandeen Subject: Re: Making it easier for end users to use ext4 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:35:07 -0500 Message-ID: <487BAA6B.7030001@redhat.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org To: "Theodore Ts'o" Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:45347 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754839AbYGNTfT (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:35:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Theodore Ts'o wrote: > So I got a comment on my recent blog posting about using ext4 that > Googling ext4 results in a lot of ancient status reports and not a lot > of good information about how to get started with ext4. The comment was > fair, so I took a few minutes to update this web page: > > http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto > > with some getting started information. > > Eric, when you have a chance, could you take a quick peek at the Fedora > Core section of that page and update it appropriately. Sure, first I'll remove "core" since that terminology doesn't exist anymore ;) > It would > probably be a good idea to include the yum repository with the latest > 1.41 e2fsprogs RPM's, etc. One other thought is if we start encouraging > people to use ext4 on FC9, whether it might be a good idea to take all > of the patches to ext4 since 2.6.25, add them to the patch queue, and > then back port the resulting stack of patches to 2.6.25 so that FC9 > users who are interested in testing ext4 would get the benefit of the > latest ext4 code, and also so any bug reports we get would also be > against the latest code. well, left to its own devices, F9 will see 2.6.26 at least as a testing kernel pretty soon I think. Waiting for that seems reasonable vs. the above patch gyrations.... > Alternatively, the repository could just > simply include 2.6.26 plus the latest ext4 patch set, whichever would be > easier. I think very soon just saying "run the latest kernel + e2fsprogs from F9 updates-testing" will be a good start. It won't have delalloc yet, though. Do we want to try to make that more widely available to people who can't/don't build their own kernels? I'm slightly hesitant I guess both for the extra work of maintaining the repo & complete kernel builds, as well as providing too much rope to people who may not know just how much rope they've got ... For pre-built fedora stuff I'd rather those users just follow what gets packaged from upstream unless someone really, really thinks we should do otherwise. -Eric > If other ext4 developers have a chance, it would be a good idea to go > through the http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org site, and do some grooming of > the site. Some of the pages like the FAQ, which were originally > targetted primarily at ext4 developers, may need to have some of the > more developer-centric content moved to other pages now that we will > start having more users coming to look at that site. And of course, > there is some very badly out-of-date information on that site as well! > > - Ted > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html