From: Nick Piggin Subject: Re: [patch] fs: revert 8ab22b9a Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:19:32 +0200 Message-ID: <20080910101932.GA17531@wotan.suse.de> References: <20080910045209.GA27092@wotan.suse.de> <6.0.0.20.2.20080910170208.05de1730@172.19.0.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Jan Kara , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds To: Hisashi Hifumi Return-path: Received: from mx1.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:48006 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751217AbYIJKTh (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:19:37 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.20.2.20080910170208.05de1730@172.19.0.2> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 05:47:00PM +0900, Hisashi Hifumi wrote: > > At 13:52 08/09/10, Nick Piggin wrote: > > > >Patch 8ab22b9a, "vfs: pagecache usage optimization for pagesize!=blocksize", > >introduces a data race that might cause uninitialized data to be exposed to > >userland. The race is conceptually the same as the one fixed for page > >uptodateness, fixed by 0ed361de. > > > >The problem is that a buffer_head flags will be set uptodate after the > >stores to bring its pagecache data uptodate[*]. This patch introduces a > >possibility to read that pagecache data if the buffer_head flag has been > >found uptodate. The problem is there are no barriers or locks ordering > >the store/store vs the load/load. > > > >To illustrate: > > CPU0: write(2) (1024 bytes) CPU1: read(2) (1024 bytes) > > 1. allocate new pagecache page A. locate page, not fully uptodate > > 2. copy_from_user to part of page B. partially uptodate? load bh flags > > 3. mark that buffer uptodate C. if yes, then copy_to_user > > > >So if the store 3 is allowed to execute before the store 2, and/or the > >load in C is allowed to execute before the load in B, then we can wind > >up loading !uptodate data. > > > > > > >One way to solve this is to add barriers to the buffer head operations > >similarly to the fix for the page issue. The problem is that, unlike the > >page race, we don't actually *need* to do that if we decide not to support > >this functionality. The barriers are quite heavyweight on some > >architectures, and we haven't seen really compelling numbers in favour of > >this patch yet (a best-case microbenchmark showed some improvement of > >course, but with memory barriers we could also produce a worst-case bench > >that shows some slowdown on many architectures). > > I think that adding wmb/rmb to all buffer_uptodate/set_buffer_uptodate is heavy > on some architectures using BUFFER_FNS macros, but it can be possible > to mitigate performance slowdown by minimizing memory barrier utilization. > The patch "vfs: pagecache usage optimization for pagesize!=blocksize" is now > just for ext2/3/4, so is it not sufficient to solve the above uninitialized data > exposure problem that adding one rmb to block_is_partially_uptodate() > and wmb to __block_commit_write() ? I guess it could be... if you have audited all those filesystems to ensure they don't set the buffer uptodate via any other paths. But still, forcing a wmb for everyone in the block path is... not so nice. As I said, I think the _best_ way to solve the problem is to ensure the buffer is only brought uptodate under the page lock, which will then give you serialisation against block_is_partially_uptodate (which is called with the page locked). If you are *sure* this is the case for ext2/3/4, then there should actually be no memory ordering problem in practice. You will have to document the API to say that users of it must obey that rule. Thanks, Nick