From: Adrian Bunk Subject: Re: [RFC] Btrfs mainline plans Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:25:39 +0300 Message-ID: <20081007202538.GC1610@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> References: <1222717460.30627.56.camel@think.oraclecorp.com> <20081003001859.e30af6a5.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20081005122405.GA12047@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> <20081005141113.GA6132@us.ibm.com> <20081005150957.GC12047@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> <1223300403.16546.45.camel@think.oraclecorp.com> <20081007152740.GA31089@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi> <1223395284.16546.121.camel@think.oraclecorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" , Andrew Morton , linux-fsdevel , linux-kernel , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Theodore Tso To: Chris Mason Return-path: Received: from smtp5.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.153.39]:54245 "EHLO smtp5.pp.htv.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753148AbYJGU0M (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:26:12 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1223395284.16546.121.camel@think.oraclecorp.com> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:01:24PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:27 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 09:40:03AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > > > > > > > > The btrfs timelines have always been aggressive, and as btrfs gets > > > closer to feature complete, the testing matrix grows dramatically. I > > > can't promise my crazy timelines won't slip, but I've been hacking away > > > in the basement for almost 18 months now and it's time for me to get off > > > the pot and make it stable. > > > > > > Ext4 has always had to deal with the ghost of ext3. Both from a > > > compatibility point of view and everyone's expectations of stability. I > > > believe that most of us underestimated how difficult it would be to move > > > ext4 forward. > > > > > > Btrfs is different for lots of reasons, and being in mainline will > > > definitely increase the pressure on the btrfs developers to finish, and > > > the resources available for us to finish with. > > > > Your last sentence does not make sense: > > > > According to your timeline btrfs 1.0 will be released in Q408 [1] - and > > the merge window for 2.6.29 will be in Q109. > > Planning for mainline inclusion is always a guessing game. The 2.6.29 merge window will start in January - everything else is much more unlikely than an incompetent chick from Alaska getting only one heart attack away from the big red button. > Cutting 1.0 > is different from being in mainline, and the dates don't have to be the > same. Sure, but Andrew's "special-case treatment" suggestion does not apply if 1.0 gets released before the 2.6.29 merge window. >... > -chris cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed