From: Curt Wohlgemuth Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Allow ext4 to run without a journal. Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:29:21 -0800 Message-ID: <6601abe90812181029r626e6ed4n4c8500e42f88a101@mail.gmail.com> References: <1228953270.14314.15.camel@bobble.smo.corp.google.com> <20081218180004.GB6797@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <532480950812181013m76fef953s3b3fb517d708b383@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org To: Jan Kara Return-path: Received: from smtp-out.google.com ([216.239.45.13]:37290 "EHLO smtp-out.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751972AbYLRS3Y (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:29:24 -0500 Received: from spaceape24.eur.corp.google.com (spaceape24.eur.corp.google.com [172.28.16.76]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id mBIITMgM001348 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:29:23 -0800 Received: from bwz13 (bwz13.prod.google.com [10.188.26.13]) by spaceape24.eur.corp.google.com with ESMTP id mBIISVJE017763 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:29:21 -0800 Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so1726466bwz.21 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:29:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <532480950812181013m76fef953s3b3fb517d708b383@mail.gmail.com> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: I should be able to post some numbers we're seeing for compilebench on various filesystems next week, including ext4 without a journal (Frank's patch). Curt On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Rubin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Jan Kara wrote: >> Interesting although I'm not that surprised because those tests seem >> to do a lot of data changes (which are never journaled in fact) and tiny >> amount of metadata changes. If you run some benchmark doing lots of >> directory operations, I guess the numbers would be considerably >> different. > > Actually we have some compile bench numbers (coming to this list soon) > that also surprised us. > The stages of compile bench that I believe are dominated by directory > operations are also > showing improvements without the journal. > >> Maybe trying dbench (I know it's kind of stupid ;) or >> postmark will show the differences better. > > I admit also we see huge variance using dbench on subsequent runs. To > the point where I don't know how much I trust it's numbers. > Is this a tool that people on this list have a lot of faith in? > > mrubin > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >