From: Amir Goldstein Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext3: skip orphan cleanup on rocompat fs Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:10:25 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20110228101454.GE4834@bitwizard.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Jan Kara , Theodore Tso , Ext4 Developers List To: Rogier Wolff Return-path: Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]:45065 "EHLO mail-qy0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754035Ab1B1NK0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:10:26 -0500 Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so2227354qyk.19 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:10:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110228101454.GE4834@bitwizard.nl> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Rogier Wolff wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:40:19PM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote: >> This patch skips the orphan cleanup if readonly compatible features >> would prevent the fs from being mounted (or remounted) readwrite. > > I use the "mount readonly" option to, for instance, view/check the > filesystem to determine wether or not I need to fsck first. I use the > "readonly" feature to prevent the mounting to be a mistake-prone > situation. It prevents e.g. applications from dropping temporary files > in my current directory. > > Every time fsck or such a cleanup does something, there is the option > of the cleanup or fixup being wrong. When you honour the "readonly" > request from the user, the careful user can go back to the situation > where he/she started. > > If the cleanup/fixup is really neccesary, do so in in-core buffers of > the filesystem. Write the infrastructure that allows us to have dirty > buffers that MAY NOT (yet?!?) be written to the device. This will also > solve the problem of journal recovery on readonly mount of a root > filesystem. when it has been fscked, and it's remounted rw, we can > remove the ban on the writeback of the dirty buffers. > > So I stronly disagree with your patch: It should not only prevent the > cleanup when writing is not allows due to ro-compat situation, but > also when requested by the user. > I am not disagreeing with your disagreement, but implementing what you desire has more implications than my patch, so I rather that my patch gets merged, because it is mostly-harmless and we can continue the discussion, whether or not file systems need to honor the readonly mount option to the word in parallel. Amir.