From: Toshiyuki Okajima Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Re: [BUG] ext4: cannot unfreeze a filesystem due to a deadlock Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:39:07 +0900 Message-ID: <4DA84A7B.3040403@jp.fujitsu.com> References: <4D5C9B1B.2050304@jp.fujitsu.com> <20110217104552.GD4947@quack.suse.cz> <20110328170628.ffe314fb.toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com> <20110330141205.GC22349@quack.suse.cz> <4D946DAB.3010107@jp.fujitsu.com> <4D9AEE28.4000003@jp.fujitsu.com> <20110405225428.GD8531@quack.suse.cz> <4D9BF57A.6030705@jp.fujitsu.com> <20110406055708.GB23285@quack.suse.cz> <4D9C18DF.90803@jp.fujitsu.com> <20110406174617.GC28689@quack.suse.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com, Ted Ts'o , Masayoshi MIZUMA , Andreas Dilger , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, sandeen@redhat.com To: Jan Kara Return-path: Received: from fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp ([192.51.44.35]:37960 "EHLO fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754879Ab1DONh0 (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:37:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20110406174617.GC28689@quack.suse.cz> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Hi, sorry for my late response. (2011/04/07 2:46), Jan Kara wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed 06-04-11 16:40:15, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote: >> (2011/04/06 14:57), Jan Kara wrote: >>> On Wed 06-04-11 14:09:14, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote: >>>> (2011/04/06 7:54), Jan Kara wrote: >>>>> On Tue 05-04-11 19:25:44, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote: >>>>>> (2011/03/31 21:03), Toshiyuki Okajima wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, thanks for your reviewing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (2011/03/30 23:12), Jan Kara wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon 28-03-11 17:06:28, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:45:52 +0100 >>>>>>>>> Jan Kara wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Thu 17-02-11 12:50:51, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> (2011/02/16 23:56), Jan Kara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed 16-02-11 08:17:46, Toshiyuki Okajima wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:29:54 +0100 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan Kara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 15-02-11 12:03:52, Ted Ts'o wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 05:06:30PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have deeply continued to examined the root cause of this problem, then >>>>>>>>> I found it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is that we can write a memory which is mmaped to a file. Then the memory >>>>>>>>> becomes "DIRTY" so then the flusher thread (ex. wb_do_writeback) tries to >>>>>>>>> "writeback" the memory. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Therefore, the root cause of this hangup is not only ext4 component (with >>>>>>>>> delayed allocation feature) but also writeback mechanism for mmap. If you >>>>>>>>> use the other filesystem, you can write something to the filesystem though >>>>>>>>> you have freezed the filesystem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, you can write something only in the caches, not to the on disk >>>>>>>> image. So it's not a problem as such. >>>>>>> My reproducer uses the loopback device(/dev/loopX). By using it, I have confirmed that >>>>>>> we can write in not only the caches but also the loopback device. However, >>>>>>> I don't still confirm that we can write to the real device(/dev/sdaX). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A sample problem is attached on this mail. Try to execute it then you can >>>>>>>>> confirm that we can write some data to your filesystem while freezing the >>>>>>>>> filesystem. >>>>>>>>> (If you change FS variable in go.sh from ext3 to ext4 and you execute >>>>>>>>> "fsfreeze -u mnt" manually on other prompt, you can also confirm this deadlock.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think the best approach to fix this problem is to let users not to write >>>>>>>>> memory which is mapped to a certain file while the filesystem is freezing. >>>>>>>>> However, it is very difficult to control users not to write memory which has >>>>>>>>> been already mapped to the file. >>>>>>>> It is actually possible. In case of ext4, you could add a check (+ wait) >>>>>>>> in ext4_page_mkwrite() whether the filesystem is frozen or in the process >>>>>>>> of being frozen and if so, wait for it to get unfrozen. The only tough >>>>>>>> problem here might be the locking as ext4_page_mkwrite() is called with >>>>>>>> mmap_sem held and I'm not sure we can take s_umount with mmap_sem held. >>>>>>>> But you'd have to fix all filesystems (and all paths possibly creating >>>>>>>> dirty data) in this way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Therefore, I think there is only actual method that we stop writeback thread >>>>>>>>> to resolve the mmap problem. Also, by this fix, the original problem >>>>>>>>> (ext4 delayed write vs unfreeze) can be solved. >>>>>>>> Hmm, I had a look at the code again and think we could fix the issue >>>>>>>> cleanly (i.e. all possible users of s_umount) as follows: The lock >>>>>>>> ordering will be >>>>>>>> s_umount -> "fs frozen" >>>>>>>> and there will be a new mutex s_freeze_mutex protecting changes of >>>>>>>> s_frozen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> freeze_bdev() already observes this lock ordering, it will only take >>>>>>>> s_freeze_mutex for the changes of s_frozen values. The only other code >>>>>>>> that is relevant for the lock ordering is thaw_super() (the freezing >>>>>>>> process is not expected to reenter kernel for the frozen filesystem). >>>>>>>> In thaw_super() we could take s_freeze_mutex, do all the thawing work, >>>>>>>> set s_frozen, release s_freeze_mutex and put superblock reference. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So something like the patch below - it seems to work for me, can you test >>>>>>>> it please? >>>>>>> I think your patch looks good, so, the original problem seems to be solved. >>>>>>> OK, I will test your patch. >>>>>>> This weekend I cannot test it. So, I will reply next week. >>>>>> I have tested whether Mizuma-san's reproducer can cause to deadlock with your >>>>>> patch. And then any problems didn't hit while the reproducer was running. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think your patch solves the original deadlock problem which is reported by >>>>>> Mizuma-san. >>>>> Good. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>>>> Reported-by: Toshiyuki Okajima >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jan Kara >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> fs/super.c | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------ >>>>>>> include/linux/fs.h | 1 + >>>>>>> 2 files changed, 35 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> However, I think a write which causes the deadlock is from mmapped dirty >>>>>> pages. So, I guess we also need to fix in the mmap path while fsfreezing. >>>>> Why? If you dirty a page, writeback thread can come and try to write it - >>>>> which blocks - but now that does not matter... >> >>>> I have not understood the code around writeback thread very much... >>>> Please explain me the concrete function name which blocks some writes? >>> It would block in ext4_da_writepages() function. >> In ext4 with delayed allocation case, I understand it blocks. >> (Original deadlock problem is just this case.) >> But in ext4 without delayed allocation or other filesystems case, which function >> can block writing? > For ext3 or ext4 without delayed allocation we block inside writepage() > function. But as I wrote to Dave Chinner, ->page_mkwrite() should probably > get modified to block while minor-faulting the page on frozen fs because > when blocks are already allocated we may skip starting a transaction and so > we could possibly modify the filesystem. OK. I think ->page_mkwrite() should also block writing the minor-faulting pages. (minor-pagefault) -> do_wp_page() -> page_mkwrite(= ext4_mkwrite()) => BLOCK! (major-pagefault) -> do_liner_fault() -> page_mkwrite(= ext4_mkwrite()) => BLOCK! > >>>> Mizuma-san's reproducer also writes the data which maps to the file (mmap). >>>> The original problem happens after the fsfreeze operation is done. >>>> I understand the normal write operation (not mmap) can be blocked while >>>> fsfreezing. So, I guess we don't always block all the write operation >>>> while fsfreezing. >>> Technically speaking, we block all the transaction starts which means we >>> end up blocking all the writes from going to disk. But that does not mean >>> we block all the writes from going to in-memory cache - as you properly >>> note the mmap case is one of such exceptions. >> Hm, I also think we can allow the writes to in-memory cache but we can't allow >> the writes to disk while fsfreezing. I am considering that mmap path can >> write to disk while fsfreezing because this deadlock problem happens after >> fsfreeze operation is done... > I'm sorry I don't understand now - are you speaking about the case above > when writepage() does not wait for filesystem being frozen or something > else? Sorry, I didn't understand around the page fault path. So, I had read the kernel source code around it, then I maybe understand... I worry whether we can update the file data in mmap case while fsfreezing. Of course, I understand that we can write to in-memory cache, and it is not a problem. However, if we can write to disk while fsfreezing, it is a problem. So, I summarize the cases whether we can write to disk or not. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cases (Whether we can write the data mmapped to the file on the disk while fsfreezing) [1] One of the page which has been mmapped is not bound. And the page is not allocated yet. (major fault?) (1) user dirtys a page (2) a page fault occurs (do_page_fault) (3) __do_falut is called. (4) ext4_page_mkwrite is called (5) ext4_write_begin is called (6) ext4_journal_start_sb => We can STOP! [2] One of the page which has been mmapped is not bound. But the page is already allocated, and the buffer_heads of the page are not mapped (BH_Mapped). (minor fault?) (1) user dirtys a page (2) a page fault occurs (do_page_fault) (3) do_wp_page is called. (4) ext4_page_mkwrite is called (5) ext4_write_begin is called (6) ext4_journal_start_sb => We can STOP! [3] One of the page which has been mmapped is not bound. But the page is already allocated, and the buffer_heads of the page are mapped (BH_Mapped). (minor fault?) (1) user dirtys a page (2) a page fault occurs (do_page_fault) (3) do_wp_page is called. (4) ext4_page_mkwrite is called * Cannot block the dirty page to be written because all bh is mapped. (5) user munmaps the page (munmap) (6) zap_pte_range dirtys the page (struct page) which is pte_dirtyed. (7) writeback thread writes the page (struct page) to disk => We cannot STOP! [4] One of the page which has been mmapped is bound. And the page is already allocated. (1) user dirtys a page ( ) no page fault occurs (2) user munmaps the page (munmap) (3) zap_pte_range dirtys the page (struct page) which is pte_dirtyed. (4) writeback thread writes the page (struct page) to disk => We cannot STOP! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, we can block the cases [1], [2]. But I think we cannot block the cases [3], [4] now. If fixing the page_mkwrite, we can also block the case [3]. But the case [4] is not blocked because no page fault occurs when we dirty the mmapped page. Therefore, to repair this problem, we need to fix the cases [3], [4]. I think we must modify the writeback thread to fix the case [4]. Thanks, Toshiyuki Okajima