From: Andreas Dilger Subject: Re: 64bit filesystem questions Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:29:16 -0600 Message-ID: <3D6EAD75-AD40-4761-91E4-9245B26536C7@dilger.ca> References: <4DF0DA54.1080005@cfl.rr.com> <692307AB-41C8-4BC7-9D01-E5798CAB3548@dilger.ca> <4DF23611.7000307@cfl.rr.com> <7CFF213A-00F5-4E6B-A31C-F17FAA2FFB04@dilger.ca> <4DF250F6.2000206@cfl.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org To: Phillip Susi Return-path: Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca ([24.71.223.10]:15071 "EHLO idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756761Ab1FJR3T convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:29:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4DF250F6.2000206@cfl.rr.com> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 2011-06-10, at 11:14 AM, Phillip Susi wrote: > On 6/10/2011 12:19 PM, Andreas Dilger wrote: >> I think in the presence of flex_bg this issue is moot. > > What is the issue without flex_bg? No "issue" really, just that the block/inode bitmaps are spread all over the filesystem. The original discussion was about whether there could be "larger bitmaps that addressed more than 32768 blocks", which is essentially what the flex_bg feature provides. With flex_bg the bitmaps for different groups will be allocated adjacent to each other on disk, and allow addressing more than 32768 blocks without any seeking. On large filesystems without flex_bg, the distribution of the bitmaps without flex_bg means that a seek is needed to read each one, and given that spinning disks have stayed at about 100 seeks/sec for decades it means 10+ minutes just to read all of the bitmaps. On my 2TB 5400 RPM SATA drive, e2fsck time went from ~20 minutes to ~3 minutes by copying the data to a new ext4 filesystem with flex_bg + extents. For a fair comparison, I then reformatted the original (identical) disk without flex_bg or extents and copied the data back, so that there wasn't any unfair comparison between the newly-formatted filesystem and the old fragmented one. Cheers, Andreas