From: Dave Chinner Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] block: Optionally snapshot page contents to provide stable pages during write Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:33:34 +1100 Message-ID: <20121214033334.GA9806@dastard> References: <20121213080740.23360.16346.stgit@blackbox.djwong.org> <20121213080811.23360.98131.stgit@blackbox.djwong.org> <50CA8556.7030905@mit.edu> <20121214021048.GF9453@blackbox.djwong.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Andy Lutomirski , axboe@kernel.dk, lucho@ionkov.net, jack@suse.cz, ericvh@gmail.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, rminnich@sandia.gov, tytso@mit.edu, martin.petersen@oracle.com, neilb@suse.de, Zheng Liu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, bharrosh@panasas.com, jlayton@samba.org, v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org To: "Darrick J. Wong" Return-path: Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net ([150.101.137.143]:35982 "EHLO ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754851Ab2LNDdj (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:33:39 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121214021048.GF9453@blackbox.djwong.org> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 06:10:49PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 05:48:06PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > On 12/13/2012 12:08 AM, Darrick J. Wong wrote: > > > Several complaints have been received regarding long file write latencies when > > > memory pages must be held stable during writeback. Since it might not be > > > acceptable to stall programs for the entire duration of a page write (which may > > > take many milliseconds even on good hardware), enable a second strategy wherein > > > pages are snapshotted as part of submit_bio; the snapshot can be held stable > > > while writes continue. > > > > > > This provides a band-aid to provide stable page writes on jbd without needing > > > to backport the fixed locking scheme in jbd2. A mount option is added to ext4 > > > to allow administrators to enable it there. > > > > I'm a bit confused as to what it has to do with ext3. Wouldn't this be > > useful as a mount option everywhere, though? > > ext3 requires snapshots; the rest are ok with either strategy. > > *If* snapshotting is generally liked, then yes I'll go redo it as a vfs mount > option. It's copying every single IO, right? If so, then please don't propagate any further than is necessary to fix the broken filesystems... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@fromorbit.com