From: Cuong Tran Subject: Re: Java Stop-the-World GC stall induced by FS flush or many large file deletions Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 22:45:10 -0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" To: "Sidorov, Andrei" Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-ext4.vger.kernel.org Awesome fix and thanks for very speedy response. I have some questions. We delete files one at a time, and thus that would lock up one core or all cores? And in our test, we use falloc w/o writing to file. That would still cause freeing block-by-block, correct? --Cuong On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Sidorov, Andrei wrote: > Hi, > > Large file deletions are likely to lock cpu for seconds if you're > running non-preemptible kernel < 3.10. > Make sure you have this change: > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/232172/ (available in 3.10 if I > remember it right). > Turning on preemption may be a good idea as well. > > Regards, > Andrei. > > On 12.09.2013 00:18, Cuong Tran wrote: >> We have seen GC stalls that are NOT due to memory usage of applications. >> >> GC log reports the CPU user and system time of GC threads, which are >> almost 0, and stop-the-world time, which can be multiple seconds. This >> indicates GC threads are waiting for IO but GC threads should be >> CPU-bound in user mode. >> >> We could reproduce the problems using a simple Java program that just >> appends to a log file via log4j. If the test just runs by itself, it >> does not incur any GC stalls. However, if we run a script that enters >> a loop to create multiple large file via falloc() and then deletes >> them, then GC stall of 1+ seconds can happen fairly predictably. >> >> We can also reproduce the problem by periodically switch the log and >> gzip the older log. IO device, a single disk drive, is overloaded by >> FS flush when this happens. >> >> Our guess is GC has to acquiesce its threads and if one of the threads >> is stuck in the kernel (say in non-interruptible mode). Then GC has to >> wait until this thread unblocks. In the mean time, it already stops >> the world. >> >> Another test that shows similar problem is doing deferred writes to >> append a file. Latency of deferred writes is very fast but once a >> while, it can last more than 1 second. >> >> We would really appreciate if you could shed some light on possible >> causes? (Threads blocked because of journal check point, delayed >> allocation can't proceed?). We could alleviate the problem by >> configuring expire_centisecs and writeback_centisecs to flush more >> frequently, and thus even-out the workload to the disk drive. But we >> would like to know if there is a methodology to model the rate of >> flush vs. rate of changes and IO throughput of the drive (SAS, 15K >> RPM). >> >> Many thanks. >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> >> >