From: Nick Krause Subject: Re: Work on ext4 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:17:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20140725145946.GT1865@thunk.org> <20140725154142.GU1865@thunk.org> <53D280C7.1080904@redhat.com> <20140728124523.GM6725@thunk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Eric Sandeen , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org To: "Theodore Ts'o" Return-path: Received: from mail-vc0-f170.google.com ([209.85.220.170]:49575 "EHLO mail-vc0-f170.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752328AbaG1PRq (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:17:46 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id lf12so11361655vcb.29 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:17:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140728124523.GM6725@thunk.org> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:01:54AM -0400, Nick Krause wrote: >> I have got some work in brtfs for now , Ted so I won't >> be able to run the tests for you for the next few weeks >> probably. Sorry about the issues, but brtfs seems >> more work then ext4 as of this point in time. > > Yes, that's probably true. > > One bit of advice. I'd encourage you to think about this not about > your lending help to a project. At your level of experience, you will > be consuming far more project development resources than you will be > contributing, no matter whether it is btrfs or ext4. I'd suggest that > you focus on learning, and in order to do that, you will need to focus > on one area --- and by that I mean not just one subsystem, but one > feature or one specific subarea --- for a sustained amount of effort. > I have to agree with Hugo Mills' observation that you are "bouncing > all over the place like a hyperactive puppy". His advice is on the > mark; listen to it. > > There are no short cuts. Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers" quotes > some studies which show that on average, master musicians have > accumulated an average 10,000 hours of practice before they achieved > mastery. Some other sources have "debunked" Gladwell's claim by > showing in their studies, it has required 10,000 to **30,000** hours > of practice. So if anything 10,000 hours is not a magic threshold, > and it might be much more than that for some. > > No doubt you will be higher functioning contributor --- a journeyman > --- before you achieve complete mastery of the craft of programming, > but at this point, you are barely an apprentice. And as such, people > who spend time hand holding you are doing so in the hopes that some > point, the investment the OSS community has put into you will pay off, > and you will start adding more value than you are subtracting, and > then, in turn, that you will "pay it forward". But that point, at > which the breakeven is reached and you can start contributing at a > high level and perhaps, mentoring other enthusiastic newocmers, is > months if not years away. > > Good luck on your journey, > > - Ted Ted, I am already reading the brtfs good and found some work there. Regards Nick