From: Austin S Hemmelgarn Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/41] Richacls Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:58:36 -0400 Message-ID: <5612C85C.2060407@gmail.com> References: <1443391772-10171-1-git-send-email-agruenba@redhat.com> <20151004062313.GA20212@infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-512; boundary="------------ms050700070409080907050306" Cc: Alexander Viro , Theodore Ts'o , Andreas Dilger , "J. Bruce Fields" , Jeff Layton , Trond Myklebust , Anna Schumaker , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, LKML , linux-fsdevel , linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org To: Andreas Gruenbacher , Christoph Hellwig Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-ext4.vger.kernel.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050700070409080907050306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-10-05 14:45, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote: > On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Christoph Hellwig w= rote: >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:08:51AM +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> here's another update of the richacl patch queue. At this stage, I w= ould >>> like to ask for final feedback so that the core and ext4 code (patche= s >>> 1-19) can be merged in the 4.4 merge window. The nfsd and nfs code s= hould >>> then go through the respective maintainer trees. >> >> Now way in this form even if everyone agrees we should have these >> bastard ACLs. I certainly disagree. > > Well, thanks for having a look at the patches. > >> Ayway, back to the VFS <-> FS interface. You still require tons of >> boilderplate code in the filesystem which isn't required and we got ri= d >> of for Posix ACLs. The filesystem should not look at the userspace >> xattr format, please follow a model similar to ->get_acl and ->set_acl= >> for Posix ACLs. > > I will repost a version that has this cleaned up. > >> After that the wire up should be so trivial that you can wire up btrfs= , >> xfs and f2fs as well, which is important to make the feature mergeable= =2E > > Why would the patch queue become more mergeable by having support for > more filesystems in it? The filesystem specific code really isn't all > that interesting. I think the point is that a new VFS feature that is easy to integrate in = multiple filesystems should have support for those filesystems. A=20 decade ago, just having ext* support would probably have been fine, but=20 these days, XFS, BTRFS, and F2FS are used just as much (if not more) on=20 production systems as ext4, and having support for them right from the=20 start would significantly help with adoption of richacls. > >> And honestly I tink adding even more overload to xattrs is a really ba= d >> idea and after 10 years of experience with that junk we really need to= >> learn and make new overloads proper system calls. > > Thanks, > Andreas > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"= in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > --------------ms050700070409080907050306 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME 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