Return-Path: Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:36044 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727343AbeKVA3D (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Nov 2018 19:29:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:54:30 +0100 From: Jan Kara To: Liu Bo Cc: Jan Kara , xiaoguang.wang@linux.alibaba.com, darrick.wong@oracle.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ext4: try to improve unwritten extents merges Message-ID: <20181121135430.GC28182@quack2.suse.cz> References: <20181120100533.GD8842@quack2.suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Hi! On Tue 20-11-18 11:03:41, Liu Bo wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 2:07 AM Jan Kara wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > On Tue 20-11-18 17:01:25, Xiaoguang Wang wrote: > > > First sorry to bother you again, recently we meet a > > > "dioread_nolock,nodelalloc" slow writeback issue, Liu Bo has sent a patch to > > > fix this issue. But here I also wonder whether we can merge unwritten > > > extents as far as possible. > > > In current codes: > > > > > > int > > > ext4_can_extents_be_merged(struct inode *inode, struct ext4_extent *ex1, > > > struct ext4_extent *ex2) > > > { > > > ... > > > if (ext4_ext_is_unwritten(ex1) && > > > (ext4_test_inode_state(inode, EXT4_STATE_DIO_UNWRITTEN) || > > > atomic_read(&EXT4_I(inode)->i_unwritten) || > > > (ext1_ee_len + ext2_ee_len > EXT_UNWRITTEN_MAX_LEN))) > > > return 0; > > > ... > > > } > > > This was added by Darrick in 2014: > > > commit a9b8241594adda0a7a4fb3b87bf29d2dff0d997d > > > Author: Darrick J. Wong > > > Date: Thu Feb 20 21:17:35 2014 -0500 > > > > > > ext4: merge uninitialized extents > > > > > > Allow for merging uninitialized extents. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Darrick J. Wong > > > Signed-off-by: "Theodore Ts'o" > > > > > > So long as we have a unwritten extents under io(which also means i_unwritten > > > is not zero), then we can not do merge work for unwritten extents, I wonder > > > whether this conditon is too strict. Assume that the > > > begin of the file is under io, but middle or end of the file could not > > > merge unwritten extetns, though they could be. > > > > > > I'm not sure whether we could directly remove > > > "atomic_read(&EXT4_I(inode)->i_unwritten)",if not, here I make a simple > > > patch to respect same semantics. The idea is simple, I use a red-black > > > tree to record unwritten extents under io, when trying to merging > > > unwritten extents, we search this per-inode tree, it not hit, we can > > > merge. I have also run "xfstests quick group test cases", look like that > > > it works well. dio maybe also go to this way. > > > > The reason why we don't merge unwritten extents if there is IO to unwritten > > extents running is that we split unwritten extents to match exactly the IO > > range on submission and then convert it to written extents on IO > > completion. So we must avoid merging these split out extents while the IO > > is running. > > > > I can see why it is a must for the 'delalloc' case (as we may be not > able to offer enough credits for doing split on IO completion). > > However, for the 'nodelalloc' case, extent splits are done in > writepages() instead of endio, and we have reserved enough credits for > either extent allocation or extent split. > > While I understand a more fine-grain track for unwritten extents is > preferable, do you think if it's OK to have a workaround like [1] to > mitigate the performance pain? I'm not sure I understand your reasoning why extent merging is OK for 'nodelalloc' case. Generally IO submission path (regardless whether in dellalloc or nodelalloc case) prepares unwritten extent. Then we write the data to the extent. Then IO completion needs to convert this extent to written one. If the extent got merged to another unwritten extent in the mean time, the conversion to written extent will need to split it again, which may need block allocation (which we not necessarily have available anymore), more journal credits then we expected etc. Am I missing something? Honza > > [1]: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/1000284 > > thanks, > liubo > > > I agree that the condition in ext4_can_extents_be_merged() is rather coarse > > so it would be nice to improve it so that unwritten extents on which IO is > > not running can be merged. I've also observed that unwritten extents get > > fragmented relatively easily under some workloads. > > > > Rather than introducing new RB-tree for this (which costs additional memory > > and its maintenance costs also CPU time), I'd use extent status tree to > > identify unwritten extent that got split out when preparing the IO (you > > should mark such extent in ext4_map_blocks() when EXT4_GET_BLOCKS_IO_SUBMIT > > flag is set). Then the flag would get cleared on extent conversion to > > written one. > > > > Honza > > > > -- > > Jan Kara > > SUSE Labs, CR -- Jan Kara SUSE Labs, CR