Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C986DC43381 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 20:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998222083E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 20:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2406882AbfBNUeP (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:34:15 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:40180 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2406868AbfBNUeP (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:34:15 -0500 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D52C880E73; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 20:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.20.6.236]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D998C60A9F; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 20:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:34:12 -0500 From: Jerome Glisse To: Dan Williams Cc: Matthew Wilcox , Michal Hocko , lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-xfs , linux-fsdevel , linux-ext4 , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-nvdimm Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] The end of the DAX experiment Message-ID: <20190214203411.GC3420@redhat.com> References: <20190214134622.GG4525@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20190214191013.GA3420@redhat.com> <20190214200840.GB12668@bombadil.infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.0 (2018-05-17) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]); Thu, 14 Feb 2019 20:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:20:11PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:09 PM Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:31:24AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:10 AM Jerome Glisse wrote: > > > > I am just again working on my struct page mapping patchset as well as > > > > the generic page write protection that sits on top. I hope to be able > > > > to post the v2 in couple weeks. You can always look at my posting last > > > > year to see more details. > > > > > > Yes, I have that in mind as one of the contenders. However, it's not > > > clear to me that its a suitable fit for filesystem-reflink. Others > > > have floated the 'page proxy' idea, so it would be good to discuss the > > > merits of the general approaches. > > > > ... and my preferred option of putting pfn entries in the page cache. > > Another option to include the discussion. > > > Or is that what you meant by "page proxy"? > > Page proxy would be an object that a filesystem could allocate to > point back to a single physical 'struct page *'. The proxy would > contain an override for page->index. Note that generic page write protection has such object, kind of like stable_node in KSM. You overwritte page->mapping to point to this generic struct which has a pointer to set of callback so that whatever is protecting the page can offer API to break protection (break sharing here). So instead of having struct proxy_page -> struct page you would have the reverse: struct page -> struct proxy and so you do not have to change much in all the file system beside removing the reliance on page->mapping which is what most of my patches are about. Cheers, J?r?me