Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D87C10F06 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 21:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43500218A6 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2019 21:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726271AbfBQVJx (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Feb 2019 16:09:53 -0500 Received: from ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net ([150.101.137.133]:25487 "EHLO ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726228AbfBQVJw (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Feb 2019 16:09:52 -0500 Received: from ppp59-167-129-252.static.internode.on.net (HELO dastard) ([59.167.129.252]) by ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 18 Feb 2019 07:39:48 +1030 Received: from dave by dastard with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1gvTh6-0002Vi-8J; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 08:09:48 +1100 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 08:09:48 +1100 From: Dave Chinner To: Ric Wheeler Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-xfs , linux-fsdevel , linux-ext4 , linux-btrfs , linux-block@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] More async operations for file systems - async discard? Message-ID: <20190217210948.GB14116@dastard> References: <92ab41f7-35bc-0f56-056f-ed88526b8ea4@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <92ab41f7-35bc-0f56-056f-ed88526b8ea4@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 03:36:10PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote: > One proposal for btrfs was that we should look at getting discard > out of the synchronous path in order to minimize the slowdown > associated with enabling discard at mount time. Seems like an > obvious win for "hint" like operations like discard. We already have support for that. blkdev_issue_discard() is synchornous, yes, but __blkdev_issue_discard() will only build the discard bio chain - it is up to the caller to submit and wait for it. Some callers (XFS, dm-thinp, nvmet, etc) use a bio completion to handle the discard IO completion, hence allowing async dispatch and processing of the discard chain without blocking the caller. Others (like ext4) simply call submit_bio_wait() to do wait synchronously on completion of the discard bio chain. > I do wonder where we stand now with the cost of the various discard > commands - how painful is it for modern SSD's? AIUI, it still depends on the SSD implementation, unfortunately. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@fromorbit.com