Received: by 2002:a25:c593:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id v141csp2772828ybe; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:06:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy3mS0Ie6NVHC+0GI3qsNPbLjDumDD2raxMh8LtmLNfaXq/PDe32sTCRe/c/vgP87mQhAPq X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:4301:: with SMTP id nh1mr46068452ejb.245.1568531171716; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:06:11 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1568531171; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=amF3DKy2bFMxp8mWWGjJnbojlSKMk35aDRZSpu1R/B4c2y8mXHmuNwfGovclAK39Nx UDQLnwxH8upyrrw52b8KR0XZuJhXU9139C9/QKZxiXXT7a26IcbNB9DrvZtGf1zHFq1L SbxTOPg0sSjH8QQPxcmjYWRXUdhKSXbrkYYJHIihHneulBOQOrDUaLtunGY1Ns7jaGU2 QBS5q3OXII28ck7sHb7UMhenWwQzPtMVoj5gcTBj0gDvhCtk7jlX2hsEvPovY0qgYBcF KGgMKSs8ZsOobvQouTuTlSqZiGHBrHBcwfektfLghhgwREOXOdXfk74aFBw9+yGmk4X8 wlYw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=sbml72VnOYATiGTqzBI8vrjTmP3YexTwS/kmbiuIsdU=; b=K69MIwkKklsHAssAbLquFpnfZ32eZj9Xk9w/wVW/DTzu23ZNx2kObXxO/lqMxWjyJf mku/4nDVH2APccqq3jzJ5VFk7s28kw3RiSfokAPRzSq62y9s0/qthpqcEfILd/CAh0jt OKXht/xHFjGLHMMPEe59wUNELrle2j3YDESZenu3YmLvrTlsY6MCgXoMFxPY7QEzZzZM BQEgL09/KgMmXbCMcXAzc9PxhP6TxZWiuQ2Nw0mt+DItq0X1rOS8e12xPWgouW/dgjM6 y1+qvFy6tYF01MjLARpksYQ3R/8uGS/TPWg2HvaHiK/Ixx/YOWmueqkg0GRNTDzThWYW KjiQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p9si2493937edx.273.2019.09.15.00.05.47; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 00:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1725991AbfIOHFo (ORCPT + 99 others); Sun, 15 Sep 2019 03:05:44 -0400 Received: from gardel.0pointer.net ([85.214.157.71]:38286 "EHLO gardel.0pointer.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725835AbfIOHFn (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Sep 2019 03:05:43 -0400 Received: from gardel-login.0pointer.net (gardel.0pointer.net [85.214.157.71]) by gardel.0pointer.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F68CE81176; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:05:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gardel-login.0pointer.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 09FE7160ADC; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 09:05:41 +0200 From: Lennart Poettering To: Willy Tarreau Cc: Linus Torvalds , "Alexander E. Patrakov" , "Ahmed S. Darwish" , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Andreas Dilger , Jan Kara , Ray Strode , William Jon McCann , zhangjs , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, lkml Subject: Re: Linux 5.3-rc8 Message-ID: <20190915070541.GC29681@gardel-login> References: <20190911173624.GI2740@mit.edu> <20190912034421.GA2085@darwi-home-pc> <20190912082530.GA27365@mit.edu> <20190914150206.GA2270@darwi-home-pc> <214fed0e-6659-def9-b5f8-a9d7a8cb72af@gmail.com> <20190915065655.GB29681@gardel-login> <20190915070103.GC20811@1wt.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190915070103.GC20811@1wt.eu> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On So, 15.09.19 09:01, Willy Tarreau (w@1wt.eu) wrote: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 08:56:55AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > There's benefit in being able to wait until the pool is initialized > > before we update the random seed stored on disk with a new one, > > And what exactly makes you think that waiting with arms crossed not > doing anything else has any chance to make the situation change if > you already had no such entropy available when reaching that first > call, especially during early boot ? That code can finish 5h after boot, it's entirely fine with this specific usecase. Again: we don't delay "the boot" for this. We just delay "writing a new seed to disk" for this. And if that is 5h later, then that's totally fine, because in the meantime it's just one bg process more that hangs around waiting to do what it needs to do. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin