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Patrakov" Cc: Linus Torvalds , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Willy Tarreau , Vito Caputo , "Ahmed S. Darwish" , Lennart Poettering , Andreas Dilger , Jan Kara , Ray Strode , William Jon McCann , zhangjs , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, lkml Subject: Re: Linux 5.3-rc8 Message-ID: <20190916231536.e3grha2tqtdcrym7@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20190916042952.GB23719@1wt.eu> <20190916061252.GA24002@1wt.eu> <20190916172117.GB15263@mit.edu> <20190916230217.vmgvsm6o2o4uq5j7@srcf.ucam.org> <20190916231103.bic65ab4ifv7vhio@srcf.ucam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 04:13:36AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > 17.09.2019 04:11, Matthew Garrett пишет: > > In one case we have "Systems don't boot, but you can downgrade your > > kernel" > > You can't. There are way too many dedicated server providers where there is > no IPMI or any equivalent, and the only help that the staff can do is to > reinstall, wiping your data. In which case you're presumably running a distro kernel that's had a decent amount of testing before you upgrade to it? -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org