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From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Date:   Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:18:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: Linux 5.3-rc8
To:     Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:11 PM Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
>
> In one case we have "Systems don't boot, but you can downgrade your
> kernel" and in the other case we have "Your cryptographic keys are weak
> and you have no way of knowing unless you read dmesg", and I think
> causing boot problems is the better outcome here.

Or: In one case you have a real and present problem. In the other
case, people are talking hypotheticals.

              Linus