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Patrakov" , zhangjs , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, lkml From: Matthew Garrett Message-ID: <2BEA80F6-6EF5-42D8-8AAA-91D4FD545241@srcf.ucam.org> X-cavan-blacklisted-at: zen.spamhaus.org X-SA-Do-Not-Run: Yes X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 216.9.110.8 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@srcf.ucam.org Subject: Re: Linux 5.3-rc8 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Tue, 02 Aug 2016 21:08:31 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); Unknown failure Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On 16 September 2019 16:18:00 GMT-07:00, Linus Torvalds wrote: >On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:11 PM Matthew Garrett >wrote: >> >> In one case we have "Systems don't boot, but you can downgrade your >> kernel" and in the other case we have "Your cryptographic keys are >weak >> and you have no way of knowing unless you read dmesg", and I think >> causing boot problems is the better outcome here=2E > >Or: In one case you have a real and present problem=2E In the other >case, people are talking hypotheticals=2E (resending because accidental HTML, sorry about that)=20 We've been recommending that people use the default getrandom() behaviour = for key generation since it was merged=2E Github shows users, and it's like= ly there's cases in internal code as well=2E=20 --=20 Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf=2Eucam=2Eorg