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[209.85.167.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m8sm675871lfa.67.2019.09.17.16.08.24 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f47.google.com with SMTP id q11so4146739lfc.11 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:08:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a19:f204:: with SMTP id q4mr366572lfh.29.1568761704101; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:08:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2658007.Cequ2ms4lF@merkaba> <20190917205234.GA1765@darwi-home-pc> <1722575.Y5XjozQscI@merkaba> <20190917215200.wtjim3t6zgt7gdmw@srcf.ucam.org> In-Reply-To: <20190917215200.wtjim3t6zgt7gdmw@srcf.ucam.org> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:08:08 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Linux 5.3-rc8 To: Matthew Garrett Cc: Martin Steigerwald , "Ahmed S. Darwish" , Lennart Poettering , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Willy Tarreau , Vito Caputo , Andreas Dilger , Jan Kara , Ray Strode , William Jon McCann , "Alexander E. Patrakov" , zhangjs , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, lkml Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:52 PM Matthew Garrett wrote: > > getrandom() will never "consume entropy" in a way that will block any > users of getrandom(). Yes, this is true for any common and sane use. And by that I just mean that we do have GRND_RANDOM, which currently does exactly that entropy consumption. But it only consumes it for other GRND_RANDOM users - of which there are approximately zero, because nobody wants that rats nest. Linus