Received: by 2002:a25:c593:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id v141csp6632754ybe; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 06:43:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxzTR3Y/yRq6Gp8xfqeqzFjLGK6zl+4fCjlHFLU/pAdnK21QJfK5dpFBKDQWTv4cU9uTnld X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:160d:: with SMTP id f13mr10441835edv.227.1568814213570; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 06:43:33 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1568814213; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=ILwiTWB/iiD5BYUfV96XUBjDLAOSav6eEXtG5RFO9OYpbv+esF3K7kO7EHWHIt/7QT pYaPZ9VzylWVw8RbaXkwT5v56rP5UJoLrGDs4hVzuu81QqCR/+Hm0aZdsjwNiPNs+2pt SN7/Sv3WkDBMsp3yzgnzExbtAeP1I30zTPv6qZOLrf/dS/iu/eQFyVjiUerUlgB7tirt hTh5BWdxz1v04ojoZ29UfZjDzBhZfPYLQHLU6/u36GB0AmAtoM+SjZvZTlq2wbpGAjKT GdAlsuw5MfPIcqC66lIvoaWhHzWaai2/xkDdnsZuRqnutFKoCFW4CsQrBYX6EvVgVu+U OotQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=VxmjXyRARMmxJpddII9pJJ9nkOf7Psqf+oCCMqDqyhg=; b=XmzFyLzWhpP/1k6uPNiXpYJ2pgQUTYuPMwMH3pjOdlLbxboDFAS36TBSJhSQkJh6S/ BW88OJZ7CKDgNcgC7+aRfKLr8lwsVdQWj0Hfqnkor9LBIY3RZlgFyk247/H1NvUg25Eg +46wSFD8lFuIYL3x+4reupL0DMmabebWg3m77R2VCckc5pN/fmH5j+NN/Vp7PWNtDiP9 huUnsBqcAEdpr6AjcjVSq2GyNIUxk4U/jj4+Ktbn4KlaIZ+YRcceTEUi0ksSkJ8oVmYd 0Uarj4SZ6WXVAYXs9A1621OD5NUnBc959y3jWDye5w5Sbvqr/0K2R6sEWenYv2AJaAOX xGbw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b9si2884331eju.269.2019.09.18.06.43.08; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 06:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1731128AbfIRNkm (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 18 Sep 2019 09:40:42 -0400 Received: from gardel.0pointer.net ([85.214.157.71]:41628 "EHLO gardel.0pointer.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727263AbfIRNkl (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Sep 2019 09:40:41 -0400 Received: from gardel-login.0pointer.net (gardel.0pointer.net [IPv6:2a01:238:43ed:c300:10c3:bcf3:3266:da74]) by gardel.0pointer.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241C7E80FFC; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:40:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gardel-login.0pointer.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D1D6B160ADC; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:40:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:40:39 +0200 From: Lennart Poettering To: Martin Steigerwald Cc: "Ahmed S. Darwish" , Linus Torvalds , "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Willy Tarreau , Matthew Garrett , Vito Caputo , Andreas Dilger , Jan Kara , Ray Strode , William Jon McCann , "Alexander E. Patrakov" , zhangjs , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, lkml Subject: Re: Linux 5.3-rc8 Message-ID: <20190918134039.GB32346@gardel-login> References: <2658007.Cequ2ms4lF@merkaba> <20190917205234.GA1765@darwi-home-pc> <1722575.Y5XjozQscI@merkaba> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1722575.Y5XjozQscI@merkaba> Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On Di, 17.09.19 23:38, Martin Steigerwald (martin@lichtvoll.de) wrote: > (I know that it still with /dev/urandom, so if it is using RDRAND now, > this may indeed be different, but would it then deplete entropy the CPU > has available and that by default is fed into the Linux crng as well > (even without trusting it completely)?) Neither RDRAND nor /dev/urandom know a concept of "depleting entropy". That concept does not exist for them. It does exist for /dev/random, but only crazy people use that. systemd does not. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin