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Registered Address: Red Hat UK Ltd, Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SI4 1TE, United Kingdom. Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 3798903 From: David Howells In-Reply-To: <20200115083854.GB23039@lst.de> References: <20200115083854.GB23039@lst.de> <4467.1579020509@warthog.procyon.org.uk> To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, tytso@mit.edu, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, darrick.wong@oracle.com, clm@fb.com, josef@toxicpanda.com, dsterba@suse.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Problems with determining data presence by examining extents? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24479.1579097734.1@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:15:34 +0000 Message-ID: <24480.1579097734@warthog.procyon.org.uk> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.16 Sender: linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org Christoph Hellwig wrote: > The whole idea of an out of band interface is going to be racy and suffer > from implementation loss. I think what you want is something similar to > the NFSv4.2 READ_PLUS operation - give me that if there is any and > otherwise tell me that there is a hole. I think this could be a new > RWF_NOHOLE or similar flag, just how to return the hole size would be > a little awkward. Maybe return a specific negative error code (ENODATA?) > and advance the iov anyway. Just having call_iter_read() return a short read could be made to suffice... provided the filesystem doesn't return data I haven't written in (which could cause apparent corruption) and does return data I have written in (otherwise I have to go back to the server). David