Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:16a7:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id gp39csp4024869pxb; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 06:15:40 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzpMjhnerRqIwMAo1T/yD6tPRKGOqsffXroJH7R7QJ6Y24hBPgfLFezBYRLJDHND+8gfY4c X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:2490:: with SMTP id e16mr19791869ejb.17.1605017740403; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 06:15:40 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1605017740; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=kwy6H2u2bXC0ohTva7Q3p1F29DFBDaOQH5RRdsTWgkBdm8pQKRJgX/yeSLCYbMf1s+ RpgWPDgMl2wAnMxKbWrhf4fI+q31boT2zpnZxtBhbZipw50IOdLw3jtXoMb7hwlHIobk 7eZ6wBIJ00KfWXJCCttByKnhQWeBNc4R1nwsAKAu9GwWbmP0Mhiix08sjAXVA/Z9OHrg lFWSw35CIGofZB/XOvxNSCoH0i0cf6SWZBzAl86ZAvzk5/KXkrfPpmJPx8xBN5q6cFW1 DWSMCPn86CNEnshShMUhGHeChvB8jUFznyiFINEwGAVjuLQE9WiqUB4ardiCiyL/8OUk AyuA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version :references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=IcpSHnPFKzQmTpdkRQdhEc3D2eYnmMfcQO6Brm8ALvQ=; b=bobsMsCFo5PGKtY5r9ixGEK1ro3QaMQUdDMBJRTd72bb9KiGyqftHeSV+RN7gPUD+W J9x7zRCRCUqcb1YsW5TLMvp1tchddEVxdfGwDGN9d7Qx238FeosFPCKq76ZgJlbYRCC+ pTEjHc/eLykZ7XJ6AKCJXju2ncn4maVAVyuFeNQIMNXC/J7orS4I4Scf9r6hbFwuhe+I FJk+4gfktGpPZWa+rtHIDPQ1s0OJxYllQhRYLiuU3z8AgkIRrkyycJOqyEgFHUl8bOCW HiOUU8lGRMNwn2iLz3dCfM6nC6f2U5aPqBtu1haXOIJ1f9ErLt/twZBiAcKsukC6LsKh EdeA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n18si8621696eje.443.2020.11.10.06.15.08; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 06:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730074AbgKJOOm (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 10 Nov 2020 09:14:42 -0500 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:38944 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726721AbgKJOOm (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Nov 2020 09:14:42 -0500 Received: from callcc.thunk.org (pool-72-74-133-215.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.133.215]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 0AAEEUTs000834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 10 Nov 2020 09:14:31 -0500 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 5C28D420107; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 09:14:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 09:14:30 -0500 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Michal Suchanek Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Dilger , "Darrick J. Wong" , Ira Weiny , Jan Kara , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Tristate moount option comatibility fixup Message-ID: <20201110141430.GA2951190@mit.edu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 08:10:07PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote: > Hello, > > after the tristate dax option change some applications fail to detect > pmem devices because the dax option no longer shows in mtab when device > is mounted with -o dax. Which applications? Name them. We *really* don't want to encourage applications to make decisions only based on the mount options. For example, it could be that the application's files will have the S_DAX flag set. It would be a real shame if we are actively encourage applications to use a broken configuration mechanism which was only used as a hack while DAX was in experimental status. - Ted