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From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
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Subject: Re: [LSFMMBPF 2021] A status update
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On Sat 12-12-20 17:29:57, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:48:53AM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > We on the program committee hope everybody has been able to stay safe and
> > healthy during this challenging time, and look forward to being able to see
> > all of you in person again when it is safe.
> > 
> > The current plans for LSFMMBPF 2021 are to schedule an in person conference
> > in H2 (after June) of 2021.  The tentative plan is to use the same hotel
> > that we had planned to use for 2020, as we still have contracts with them.
> > However clearly that is not set in stone.  The Linux Foundation has done a
> > wonderful job of working with us to formulate a plan and figure out the
> > logistics that will work the best for everybody, I really can't thank them
> > enough for their help.
> 
> Thank you all for doing your best in the face of this disruption.  I
> really appreciate all the work you're putting in, and I can't wait to
> see you all again in person.
> 
> I hosted a Zoom call yesterday on the topic of Page Folios, and uploaded
> the video.

Thanks for organizing this. I couldn't attent directly but I have
watched the video. I think this was a useful meeting.

> There was interest expressed in the call on doing a follow-up
> call on the topic of GUP (get_user_pages and friends).  It would probably
> also be good to have meetings on other topics.

I hope I will have time to join this one.

> I don't want this to be seen in any way as taking away from LSFMMBPF.
> I see Zoom calls as an interim solution to not having face-to-face
> meetings.

Agreed!

> I'd like to solicit feedback from this group on:
> 
>  - Time of day.  There is no good time that suits everyone around
>    the world.  With developers in basically every inhabited time zone, the
>    call will definitely take place in the middle of somebody's night, and
>    during somebody else's normal family time.  Publishing the recordings
>    helps ameliorate some of this, but I feel we should shift the time
>    around.  Having it at the same time of day helps people fit it into
>    their schedule of other meetings (and meals), but I think the benefits
>    of allowing more people to participate live outweighs the costs.

Hard question without any good answer. You can rotate preferred timezone
which should spread the suffering.

>  - Schedule.  Friday's probably a bad day to have it, as it ends up
>    being Saturday for some people.  It can move around the week too.
>    Also, probably wise to not have it over Christmas as most developers
>    have that period as family time.

Yes, Friday tends to be not great. I think mid week should work better
as the overalap 

>  - Topics.  I'm sure there's no shortage of things to discuss!  I'm
>    happy to organise meetings for people even on topics I have no direct
>    interest in.

Thanks for organizing this. I am pretty sure poeple will land on topics
either in the call or over email.

> And most urgently, when should we have the GUP meeting? On the call,
> I suggested Friday the 8th of January, but I'm happy to set something
> up for next week if we'd like to talk more urgently.

I am unlikely to be able to join before the end of year so if you ask
me.

Thanks again and fingers crossed we can actually have a face to face
meeting sometimes during next year.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs