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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id r12si24668745edw.349.2020.12.30.17.33.39; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 17:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@samsung.com header.s=mail20170921 header.b=uvUYcKu5; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=samsung.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726289AbgLaBdW (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 30 Dec 2020 20:33:22 -0500 Received: from mailout2.samsung.com ([203.254.224.25]:12002 "EHLO mailout2.samsung.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726285AbgLaBdV (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Dec 2020 20:33:21 -0500 Received: from epcas2p2.samsung.com (unknown [182.195.41.54]) by mailout2.samsung.com (KnoxPortal) with ESMTP id 20201231013238epoutp02eeb897293f857c1c717237e04810dbdf~VqRcRGkbj2113821138epoutp02m for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 01:32:38 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mailout2.samsung.com 20201231013238epoutp02eeb897293f857c1c717237e04810dbdf~VqRcRGkbj2113821138epoutp02m DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=samsung.com; s=mail20170921; t=1609378358; bh=D4kKCmHLjbqSFNsgta6NLMlj1yYxqAWKe9guecte5ac=; h=Subject:Reply-To:From:To:CC:In-Reply-To:Date:References:From; b=uvUYcKu52/G770J8LoP2muiyFF3NOMDL9GNmwxqXDeaM05EdKuYlZ9wM3/s+wInkK 2UqYa4b6pS7EBNIT1Se6vZ+RMqWIOlN/PSid64rX1v+Oc4ngw9hQgQvS9A9RxnOac9 3So2/KTF+aSr74DEZQSan91EvaETBYKFCcSVfkGQ= Received: from epsnrtp4.localdomain (unknown [182.195.42.165]) by epcas2p1.samsung.com (KnoxPortal) with ESMTP id 20201231013237epcas2p1bef960e446694ca481f07c8b0b9cdbbf~VqRb5MZRW3091130911epcas2p1O; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 01:32:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from epsmges2p3.samsung.com (unknown [182.195.40.186]) by epsnrtp4.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5rHm6StgzMqYkd; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 01:32:36 +0000 (GMT) X-AuditID: b6c32a47-b81ff7000000148e-96-5fed2a34c349 Received: from epcas2p1.samsung.com ( [182.195.41.53]) by epsmges2p3.samsung.com (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 23.51.05262.43A2DEF5; Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:32:36 +0900 (KST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Re: Re: discard and data=writeback Reply-To: daejun7.park@samsung.com Sender: Daejun Park From: Daejun Park To: Matteo Croce , Daejun Park CC: "tytso@mit.edu" , "linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" X-Priority: 3 X-Content-Kind-Code: NORMAL In-Reply-To: X-CPGS-Detection: blocking_info_exchange X-Drm-Type: N,general X-Msg-Generator: Mail X-Msg-Type: PERSONAL X-Reply-Demand: N Message-ID: <20201231013236epcms2p63f3c167693f76407103422d8cd347725@epcms2p6> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:32:36 +0900 X-CMS-MailID: 20201231013236epcms2p63f3c167693f76407103422d8cd347725 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Sendblock-Type: AUTO_CONFIDENTIAL CMS-TYPE: 102P X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrPKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsWy7bCmqa6J1tt4g1f/DS1WPQi3mDnvDpvF xV/zGS1ae36yO7B4/Np+lMmj6cxRZo++LasYPT5vkgtgicqxyUhNTEktUkjNS85PycxLt1Xy Do53jjc1MzDUNbS0MFdSyEvMTbVVcvEJ0HXLzAHaqKRQlphTChQKSCwuVtK3synKLy1JVcjI Ly6xVUotSMkpMDQs0CtOzC0uzUvXS87PtTI0MDAyBapMyMmY+nA5U8EjtopPB6+wNTDuZ+1i 5OSQEDCReP38BmMXIxeHkMAORolryzcBORwcvAKCEn93CIPUCAvoS6yYvJUFxBYSUJJYf3EW O0RcT+LWwzWMIDabgI7E9BP3weIiAuES6073MYPYzAIJEheXT2eH2MUrMaP9KQuELS2xfflW sF5OgUCJk2tWsEHENSR+LOtlhrBFJW6ufssOY78/Np8RwhaRaL13FqpGUOLBz91QcUmJY7s/ MEHY9RJb7/wC+0tCoIdR4vDOW1AP60tc69gIdgSvgK/Eg7U3wBawCKhKLFr/nAXkdwkBF4nt 88wg7peX2P52DjNImFlAU2L9Ln2ICmWJI7dYICr4JDoO/4X7cMe8J1AXqEms+7meCaJcRuLW PEYI00Pi5LvoCYyKsxChPAvJplkImxYwMq9iFEstKM5NTy02KjBGjthNjOCUp+W+g3HG2w96 hxiZOBgPMUpwMCuJ8CYkvIoX4k1JrKxKLcqPLyrNSS0+xGgK9OJEZinR5Hxg0s0riTc0NTIz M7A0tTA1M7JQEuctNngQLySQnliSmp2aWpBaBNPHxMEp1cAU/2TFI8e5jpXvmd5X/g9oLNw9 bXLGc/t2Ede9vg6W8tYewtMjTG48OWW/UG7bIfMO+2s6nRIB4uwL9i05J5T6IYWJ3+DIuzPX GK2/q95/FviR/dQkZr97PA3VnPw3OdTCbeNf6Qpxb7j5RSloTYrs57T0z0l1uWoNXx908AbP 7/rwyVjyuJZIhm87q9z5jgstt81T9bf8ye9bn93sLjr/zln+hou1m7p9/fp+WlRM1fHxMVE+ vu/CRJ6Ua43TvL9XdX3VcthboJ07eaf7RjWltP7TcoL5UYWeD/aL5Ar+/HnnxR+eotXOrJba WzbtDC7d8p2vMC3o66Sl1VzVT7S2hT3ekLjzoS0n75OJMkosxRmJhlrMRcWJAFWX7K4CBAAA DLP-Filter: Pass X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-CMS-RootMailID: 20201229054143epcms2p15ae3cce43bb3c503adf94528f354ba78 References: <20201229054143epcms2p15ae3cce43bb3c503adf94528f354ba78@epcms2p1> <20201230052139epcms2p5d4b8d41625ebd7ea677500d1c05153ef@epcms2p5> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org Hi, In the trace files, the amount of discard is almost the same in both modes. (ordered: 1096MB / writeback: 1078MB) However, there is a big difference in the average discard size per request. (ordered: 15.6KB / writeback: 34.2MB) In ext4, when data is deleted, discard is immediately issued in writeback mode. Therefore, the average size of discard commands is small and the number of discard commands is large. However, if it is not in the writeback mode, discard commands are issued by JBD after merging them. Therefore, the average size of discard is large and the number of discard commands is small. In conclusion, since discard commands are not merged in the writeback mode, many fragmented discard commands occur, so it affects the elapsed time of many file deletion. And it is not abnormal behavior of ext4 file system. Thanks, Daejun