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From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Date:   Sun, 21 Mar 2021 15:23:17 -0700
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] ext4 fixes for v5.12
To:     "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
        "zhangyi (F)" <yi.zhang@huawei.com>
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On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 11:31 AM Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
>
> zhangyi (F) (3):
>       ext4: find old entry again if failed to rename whiteout
>       ext4: do not iput inode under running transaction in ext4_rename()
>       ext4: do not try to set xattr into ea_inode if value is empty

Side note: this is obviously entirely up to the author, but I think it
would be nice if we would encourage people to use their native names
if/when they want to.

Maybe this "zhangyi (F)" is how they _want_ to write their name in the
kernel, and that's obviously fine if so.

But at the same time, coming from Finland, I remember how people who
had the "odd" characters (=C3=A5=C3=A4=C3=B6) in their name ended up replac=
ing them
with the US-ASCII version (generally "aa" "ae" and "oe"), and it
always just looked bad to a native speaker. Particularly annoying in
public contexts.

At the same time, for the same reason, I can also understand people
not wanting to even expose those characters at all, because then
non-native speakers invariably messed it up even worse...

Anyway, I think and hope that we have the infrastructure to do it
right not just for Latin1, but the more complex non-Western character
sets too.

And as a result should possibly encourage people to use their native
names if they want to. At least make people aware that it _should_
work.

Again, maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, and in this case "zhangyi
(F) <yi.zhang@huawei.com>" is just what zhangyi prefers simply because
it's easier/more convenient.

But I just wanted to mention it, because we _do_ have examples of it
working. Not many, but some:

    git log --pretty=3D"%an" --since=3D2.years | sort -u | tail

including examples of having the Westernized name in parenthesis for
the "use that one if you can't do the real one" case..

            Linus