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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si16638044jal.41.2021.05.10.04.32.44; Mon, 10 May 2021 04:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@infradead.org header.s=desiato.20200630 header.b=WsJOelUd; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S234818AbhEJLbC (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 10 May 2021 07:31:02 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:45482 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235745AbhEJLF7 (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 May 2021 07:05:59 -0400 Received: from desiato.infradead.org (desiato.infradead.org [IPv6:2001:8b0:10b:1:d65d:64ff:fe57:4e05]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFBCBC061239; Mon, 10 May 2021 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=desiato.20200630; h=Mime-Version:Content-Type:References: In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=UHpuNbQx3huyy+qSYMXBVB29n3wsJKoJ0KKAXsrG1rY=; b=WsJOelUdN0UYaNzIsYeGaSFcN5 HsxNoiVtMYBHu3OYe/dsLseOvDnHd2IQ/cKnGULEhQF8EynAiBEhJVc8eUNTPcxQ6Vd9MWhvuEWpT bdH7Ha3VUTSL6cvpcA3Inm7qxfKulXvvR9MaO1BdFa4mFDvAHxAc3nXDG5leir92aDB48NrBvgc6x 472ImiZRwA9BkqBninKRrMW5G6E07wQm3pSc/FfcQy+61QOZ8QWg2dYSEz6ibJ3u9JNFp9RUOHM0J zIjV3/r6zfkINZ0HrhtFn+gg9nc/C0rmnAETJzNXwqoAvHCfNgevDtujuHFb2rkRz8ELnwg8CdNDS wBPLauqg==; Received: from dyn-234.woodhou.se ([90.155.92.234]) by desiato.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.94 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1lg3Y2-00E0oX-Qu; Mon, 10 May 2021 10:54:03 +0000 Message-ID: <2ae366fdff4bd5910a2270823e8da70521c859af.camel@infradead.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/53] Get rid of UTF-8 chars that can be mapped as ASCII From: David Woodhouse To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Linux Doc Mailing List Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, coresight@lists.linaro.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, mjpeg-users@lists.sourceforge.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 11:54:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-ob5s4dkk/IPkbSg8129x" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by desiato.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org --=-ob5s4dkk/IPkbSg8129x Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2021-05-10 at 12:26 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > There are several UTF-8 characters at the Kernel's documentation. >=20 > Several of them were due to the process of converting files from > DocBook, LaTeX, HTML and Markdown. They were probably introduced > by the conversion tools used on that time. >=20 > Other UTF-8 characters were added along the time, but they're easily > replaceable by ASCII chars. >=20 > As Linux developers are all around the globe, and not everybody has UTF-8 > as their default charset, better to use UTF-8 only on cases where it is r= eally > needed. No, that is absolutely the wrong approach. If someone has a local setup which makes bogus assumptions about text encodings, that is their own mistake. We don't do them any favours by trying to *hide* it in the common case so that they don't notice it for longer. There really isn't much excuse for such brokenness, this far into the 21st century. Even *before* UTF-8 came along in the final decade of the last millennium, it was important to know which character set a given piece of text was encoded in. In fact it was even *more* important back then, we couldn't just assume UTF-8 everywhere like we can in modern times. Git can already do things like CRLF conversion on checking files out to match local conventions; if you want to teach it to do character set conversions too then I suppose that might be useful to a few developers who've fallen through a time warp and still need it. But nobody's ever bothered before because it just isn't necessary these days. Please *don't* attempt to address this anachronistic and esoteric "requirement" by dragging the kernel source back in time by three decades. --=-ob5s4dkk/IPkbSg8129x Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCECow ggUcMIIEBKADAgECAhEA4rtJSHkq7AnpxKUY8ZlYZjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCBlzELMAkGA1UE BhMCR0IxGzAZBgNVBAgTEkdyZWF0ZXIgTWFuY2hlc3RlcjEQMA4GA1UEBxMHU2FsZm9yZDEaMBgG A1UEChMRQ09NT0RPIENBIExpbWl0ZWQxPTA7BgNVBAMTNENPTU9ETyBSU0EgQ2xpZW50IEF1dGhl bnRpY2F0aW9uIGFuZCBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwgQ0EwHhcNMTkwMTAyMDAwMDAwWhcNMjIwMTAxMjM1 OTU5WjAkMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhNkd213MkBpbmZyYWRlYWQub3JnMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAsv3wObLTCbUA7GJqKj9vHGf+Fa+tpkO+ZRVve9EpNsMsfXhvFpb8 RgL8vD+L133wK6csYoDU7zKiAo92FMUWaY1Hy6HqvVr9oevfTV3xhB5rQO1RHJoAfkvhy+wpjo7Q 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