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Registered Address: Red Hat UK Ltd, Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SI4 1TE, United Kingdom. Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 3798903 From: David Howells In-Reply-To: References: <3221175.1624375240@warthog.procyon.org.uk> To: Al Viro Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, Ted Ts'o , Dave Hansen , Andrew Morton , willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Do we need to unrevert "fs: do not prefault sys_write() user buffer pages"? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3225321.1624379221.1@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:27:01 +0100 Message-ID: <3225322.1624379221@warthog.procyon.org.uk> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org Al Viro wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 04:20:40PM +0100, David Howells wrote: > > > and wondering if the iov_iter_fault_in_readable() is actually effective. > > Yes, it can make sure that the page we're intending to modify is dragged > > into the pagecache and marked uptodate so that it can be read from, but is > > it possible for the page to then get reclaimed before we get to > > iov_iter_copy_from_user_atomic()? a_ops->write_begin() could potentially > > take a long time, say if it has to go and get a lock/lease from a server. > > Yes, it is. So what? We'll just retry. You *can't* take faults while > holding some pages locked; not without shitloads of deadlocks. In that case, can we amend the comment immediately above iov_iter_fault_in_readable()? /* * Bring in the user page that we will copy from _first_. * Otherwise there's a nasty deadlock on copying from the * same page as we're writing to, without it being marked * up-to-date. * * Not only is this an optimisation, but it is also required * to check that the address is actually valid, when atomic * usercopies are used, below. */ if (unlikely(iov_iter_fault_in_readable(i, bytes))) { The first part suggests this is for deadlock avoidance. If that's not true, then this should perhaps be changed. David