Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:c604:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id y4csp2899920pxt; Mon, 9 Aug 2021 11:27:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzhQOm4ewMFQX7QCywgnBC5t3wKPHn2NR6Cm+b5mkcGMKWsZap4uhHvaZulxvLlqdtcq+PT X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:76da:: with SMTP id q26mr11069902ejn.402.1628533674469; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 11:27:54 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1628533674; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=A8HP/OvSxsYuq+8R6AQpxhN4WSysruG+VOip7y9pJugqlFW8iQNA7p1bTZ7ZCZbSQR BbgBSB1QDkM1qZTBik40ilFTBEuuxtd2cu6UKVs0bPlI4RbcUtcuKv8Uuz+Fj5yGZmCB w9L1ZG2/qpvk1EfPIWo+kELEt0tc7WtnWfNlQ898Ua6o6+COpMTAtjXH51soyXjmJ/nJ CMGpgkFwgrNRvyobFd9TDVomMlEOpghy1v2zd3SdwAF74r15xsdHyrg3LX7ajjeju3yc 0adHeyu5m/QtShRyW6ScSuJwDPsrqEGTVOmsq3pfDWP+93l2W9eqhAO6N4oBlENxfIH+ W8CQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version :references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=NRtw1YTmeDaK8z+LO4s7DXTGel1WMponpWw5DUqOLyQ=; b=jouL/UTtG0QPICyq1h4GHgCcnCij7WokIhG4PoGvGKJipkxAeHY+4bVMLFFq2ZPNW1 pzZ9KO/OjMbA16KuDZRyqwxRRG85E3ZqWCn0rWM+D1qkUagj5osbQR8Z3ukQd46t1wMh QAwW1UZbtnKDeL28Age2b9U2bl67ajgT3Stn0xBe5DbAo/Iwgig+Ry0q4FQXTPDNiZTP qfTL7Ix40wrYGFWevby0/98iHWG7b0lELCnjdBsVCDfXK0DhiPqs9d9UGM+z14z6dtap I0SpP/zTWHc1nEOXiILYaWOwJtuSdR+X2+J1TrvPEET9+rj57iTNcpcdFKM8VhcKjfJC Xv7w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id v14si16126065ejc.200.2021.08.09.11.27.23; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 11:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-ext4-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230039AbhHIS1D (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 9 Aug 2021 14:27:03 -0400 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:48098 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S234638AbhHIS1D (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Aug 2021 14:27:03 -0400 Received: from cwcc.thunk.org (pool-72-74-133-215.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.133.215]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 179IQWrP022654 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 Aug 2021 14:26:33 -0400 Received: by cwcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 8F68915C3DD0; Mon, 9 Aug 2021 14:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 14:26:32 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: ValdikSS Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ext4lazyinit reads HDD data on mount since 5.13 Message-ID: References: <015c7506-7f33-3967-772a-1285b0f1052f@valdikss.org.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 10:43:08AM +0300, ValdikSS wrote: > On 09.08.2021 04:51, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > It's a new feature which optimizes block allocations for very large > > file systems. The work being done by ext4lazyinit is to read the > > block allocation bitmaps so we can cache the buddy bitmaps and how > > fragmented (or not) various block groups are, which is used to > > optimize the block allocator. > > Thanks for the info. To revert old behavior, the filesystem should be > mounted with -o no_prefetch_block_bitmaps > > Is it safe to use this option with new optimizations? Should I expect only > less optimal filesystem speed and no other issues? It's not been tested, but it should be safe in terms that it shouldn't lead to any file system corruption or data loss. However, it may result in non-optional block placement that might cause more file or free-space fragmentation that might otherwise be the case. (This was true even before the latest optimizations, but it's more the case with the new optimizations.) Can you say something about why you want to disable to block allocation prefetch? How is it causing problems for you? Cheers, - Ted