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Wong" , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, dchinner@redhat.com Subject: Re: [RFC 0/7] ext4: Allocator changes for atomic write support with DIO Message-ID: References: <8c06c139-f994-442b-925e-e177ef2c5adb@oracle.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 07:46:51AM +0000, John Garry wrote: > It is assumed that the user will fallocate/dd the complete file before > issuing atomic writes, and we will have extent alignment and length as > required. I don't think that's a long time maintainable usage model.