From: Erez Zadok <ezk@cs.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Re: ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OA2317_1057450427_CVO-EXCHANGE _1 was generated
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 20:43:38 -0400
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To: seth vidal <skvidal@phy.duke.edu>
In-reply-to: Your message of "05 Jul 2003 20:20:19 EDT."
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In message <1057450819.27203.1.camel@binkley>, seth vidal writes:

> ok, come on - maybe we should consider just making non-subscribers posts
> be held for approval. Its very easy to do in mailman and sheesh - we've
> been getting about 5 or so of these Deleted action virus crap every day.
> 
> -sv

Thank you, Seth!  Finally someone with the right attitude.  A few weeks ago
when the anti-spam debate on this list came on yet again, several people
said that they'd rather keep the list open and that people should just
configure their own anti-spam techniques (i.e., throw the ball to the poor
subscribers).  I think that if someone is novice enough not to know how to
subscribe to a list for the purpose of sending an important question, then
they most definitely don't know how to setup and configure anti-spam.  And
if the concern is about inconveniencing novice users who don't want to
subscribe to this list, then from what I've seen, novice users ask novice
questions that are best answered in the FAQ, archives, etc.

Personally, I strongly support closing this list off to non-subscribers.
This way you save hassles to many subscribers, and instead asking the
maintainers to filter held posts (or configure more specialized anti-spam
methods FOR THIS LIST -- a one time effort).  I maintain several
non-open-to-all Mailman-based lists with over 10k subscribers in total, and
I have done just that (BTW, integrated anti-spam methods are especially
convenient w/ Mailman 2.1).

Cheers,
Erez.


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