From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Question: When NFS client check dir's permission,
	it	does not check the cache data
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:26:50 -0400
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To: Wei Yongjun <yjwei@cn.fujitsu.com>
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On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 13:12 +0800, Wei Yongjun wrote:
> Sorry to trouble again, it is this a real problem of NFS?

You cannot replace an ACCESS call with checks of the mode bits. On NFS,
the mode bits do _not_ suffice to determine access rights.

Trond

> >>> I mean that read a dir, such as lookup a dir.
> >>> If I reply a getattr as that dir has no lookup permission, and then do a
> >>> "cat /nfsroot/dir/file" at client, client will not send lookup procedure to
> >>> server, because client used the cache data of the dir. It like this:
> >>> client server
> >>> #ls /nfsroot
> >>> readdirplus ------------------>
> >>> <------------- readdirplus reply
> >>> (attribute of dir has no lookup permission)
> >>> # cat /nfsroot/dir/file
> >>> (send nothing, used cache data)
> >>> -------no package is send-------
> >>>
> >>> If no cache data exists, it would like this:
> >>> client server
> >>> #ls /nfsroot
> >>> readdirplus ------------------>
> >>> <------------- readdirplus reply
> >>> (attribute of dir has no lookup permission)
> >>> # cat /nfsroot/dir/file
> >>> access(dir) ------------------->
> >>> <------------- access reply(dir)
> >>> (has no lookup permission)
> >>>
> >>> And if has permission to lookup dir, it would like this:
> >>> client server
> >>> #ls /nfsroot
> >>> readdirplus ------------------>
> >>> <------------- readdirplus reply
> >>> (attribute of dir has no lookup permission)
> >>> # cat /nfsroot/dir/file
> >>> access(dir) -------------------> (*1)
> >>> <------------- access reply(dir)
> >>> lookup(file) ------------------->
> >>> <------------- lookup reply(file)
> >>> read(file) ------------------->
> >>> <------------- read reply(file)
> >>>
> >>> While you optimize all write operations to omit access procedure, can
> >>> this access (*1) be omitted? Then lookup(file) will return NOPERM.
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >> So what if I change the permissions on the directory? What should the
> >> rules be for caching these attributes?
> >>
> >> ...and you still haven't replied to my question about what
> >> application/workload actually _cares_ about optimising for this
> >> particular case.
> >>   
> >>     
> > No application cares this ^_^, just for test.
> > I test the read op of dir, it maybe has tiny bug in it. As you said, if
> > I chmod of dir, client will be a little later to know this.
> > Test step ad following:
> >
> > [root@REHL ~]# mount -t nfs 192.168.0.19:/nfsroot /mnt
> > [root@REHL ~]# ll /mnt
> > total 4
> > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 23  2007 dir
> > [root@REHL ~]# ll /mnt/dir
> > total 4
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 Jun 24  2007 file
> > [root@REHL ~]# su weiyj
> > [weiyj@REHL root]$ ll /mnt
> > total 4
> > dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 23  2007 dir
> > [weiyj@REHL root]$ ll /mnt/dir
> > total 4
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5 Jun 24  2007 file
> > [weiyj@REHL root]$ cat /mnt/dir/file
> > test
> > [weiyj@REHL root]$ ssh 192.168.0.19 -l root chmod a-x /nfsroot/dir
> > [weiyj@REHL root]$ cat /mnt/dir/file
> > test
> > [weiyj@REHL root]$ cat /mnt/dir/file
> > test
> > [weiyj@REHL root]$ ll /mnt/dir
> > total 0
> > ?--------- ? ? ? ?            ? /mnt/dir/file
> > [weiyj@REHL root]$ ll /mnt
> > total 4
> > dr--r--r-- 2 root root 4096 Jun 23  2007 dir
> > [weiyj@REHL root]$ cat /mnt/dir/file
> > cat: /mnt/dir/file: Permission denied
> >   
> 
> 


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