2020-11-10 01:43:14

by Seth Forshee

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Subject: Re: [PATCH] wireless-regdb: restore channel 12 & 13 limitation in the US

On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 03:01:22PM +0200, bkil wrote:
> The precisely allowed transmission power on channel 12 & 13 is not clear.
>
> I did some fact checking and document reviews in the past, but still
> failed to come up with an exact reference or calculation regarding what TX
> power should be allowed in general to reduce interference in the
> neighboring restricted band 2483.5-2500 MHz and whether indoor vs. outdoor
> and b/g/n modulation would make a difference (probably yes).
>
> Existing documents that discuss this are vague and pretty much out of date:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels#endnote_B
>
> Following these guidelines, I failed to come up with an approximate
> formula that would prohibit usage of channel 12 & 13, but still allow
> usage of channel 11 with full power, hence at least part of the argument
> for prohibiting channel 12 & 13 needs to be refined.
>
> Until further research, just to stay safe, I propose that we restore the
> previous limitation of disabling channel 12 & 13 as before. We should
> work towards finding a safe transmission power to use on both and specify
> that (like 50mW on channel 13 and 100mW on channel 12?).
>
> I've also started a discussion for investigation on Wikipedia:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_WLAN_channels#Should_the_2.4GHz_channel_12_and_13_in_the_USA_need_updating?
>
> Signed-off-by: bkil <[email protected]>

I tried doing a little research, and it does appear that use of channels
12 and 13 is more complicated than it might seem on the surface. I
cannot find any clear guidance on power limits and lack the background
to determine appropriate limits from the information I did find, so it
does seem prudent to restore the previous limitation.

Applied, thanks!

> ---
> db.txt | 6 +++++-
> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
> index ac32483..68613cf 100644
> --- a/db.txt
> +++ b/db.txt
> @@ -1568,8 +1568,12 @@ country UG: DFS-FCC
>
> # https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=eed706a2c49fd9271106c3228b0615f3&mc=true&node=pt47.1.15&rgn=div5
> # Title 47 Part 15 - Radio Frequency Devices, April 2, 2020
> +# Channels 12 and 13 are not forbidden, but are not normally used with full
> +# power in order to avoid any potential interference in the adjacent restricted
> +# frequency band, 2,483.5–2,500 MHz which is subject to strict emission limits
> +# set out in 47 CFR § 15.205. TODO: reenable and specify a safe TX power here.
> country US: DFS-FCC
> - (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (30)
> + (2400 - 2472 @ 40), (30)
> # 5.15 ~ 5.25 GHz: 30 dBm for master mode, 23 dBm for clients
> (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (23), AUTO-BW
> (5250 - 5350 @ 80), (23), DFS, AUTO-BW