Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:39:00 -0800
From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
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Subject: Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)
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On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:55:30PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:58:13AM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > Ok, how about the following patch.  Is it acceptable to everyone?
> > 
> > -	  If you are using a distro that was released in 2006 or later,
> > -	  it should be safe to say N here.
> > +	  If you are using an OpenSuSE, Gentoo, Ubuntu, or Fedora
> > +	  release from 2007 or later, it should be safe to say N here.
> > +
> > +	  If you are using Debian or other distros that are slow to
> > +	  update HAL, please say Y here.
> 
> What HAL version do you think Debian ought to have, pray tell? And
> what the hell version do those other distros have?
> 
> The last HAL release was 0.5.8 on 11-Sep-2006. It showed up in
> Debian/unstable on 2-Oct. There have been six Debian bugfix releases,
> the most recent on 12-Feb.
> 
> http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/dist/
> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/h/hal/hal_0.5.8.1-6.1/changelog

Ok, I only named HAL as that is what people have told me the problem is.
I have been running this change on my boxs, without
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED since last July or so.

But I don't use NetworkManager here for the most part, but I have tried
this in the OpenSuse10.3 alpha releases and it seems to work just fine
with whatever version of NetworkManager it uses.

So perhaps it's some wrapper scripts somewhere?  I think SuSE had some
odd things hard coded somewhere that prevented 10.1 from working
properly with this change.

Ok, so I'll drop the HAL wording above, what should I say instead?

thanks,

greg k-h