Return-path: Received: from smtp.rutgers.edu ([128.6.72.243]:57062 "EHLO annwn14.rutgers.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964808AbXCSUkJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:40:09 -0400 From: Michael Wu To: Andy Green Subject: Re: Faking powersave for fun and realtime channel muxing Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:38:43 -0400 Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org References: <45FEEB34.1000403@warmcat.com> In-Reply-To: <45FEEB34.1000403@warmcat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart32623997.PdHQqjVhnN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Message-Id: <200703191638.48742.flamingice@sourmilk.net> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --nextPart32623997.PdHQqjVhnN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 19 March 2007 15:57, Andy Green wrote: > Hi folks - > > If you could generate and manage powersave protocol frames to an AP from > the mac80211 stack, without actually putting the radio to sleep, you > could do some interesting things. > Like in my scanning patch series? http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?group=3Dgmane.linux.kernel.wireless.gen= eral&article=3D770 This requires a bit of kernel side support to queue up frames on the client= =20 side to maintain the illusion that nothing happened. (except for a brief=20 latency jump) However, it does seem to work for the wireless cards I've=20 tested. Doing scanning like this in userspace will require some sort of=20 interface to stop/restart the TX for the appropriate network interfaces, bu= t=20 will probably make your multichannel association idea possible. As for how long the AP will hold your frames.. 802.11 defines a minimum tim= e,=20 but the maximum depends on the AP. =2DMichael Wu --nextPart32623997.PdHQqjVhnN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBF/vTYT3Oqt9AH4aERAn9eAKC432oUP9HBKkhnCTRUUdLL56F8cwCfQzOK xb6hgcrBCBxJ9mxZWD7Gg0A= =oVJJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart32623997.PdHQqjVhnN-- -: To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org: More majordomo info at http: //vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html