Return-path: Received: from waste.org ([66.93.16.53]:35683 "EHLO waste.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751669AbXCEUIb (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:08:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:55:30 -0600 From: Matt Mackall To: Greg KH Cc: Theodore Tso , Johannes Berg , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, yi.zhu@intel.com, jketreno@linux.intel.com, linux-wireless , akpm@osdl.org Subject: Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager) Message-ID: <20070305195530.GM23311@waste.org> References: <20070304220857.GH23311@waste.org> <1173051564.6131.13.camel@johannes.berg> <20070305002550.GI23311@waste.org> <20070305011729.GB7681@kroah.com> <20070305125950.GC26781@thunk.org> <20070305185813.GA31465@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <20070305185813.GA31465@kroah.com> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:58:13AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > Ok, how about the following patch. Is it acceptable to everyone? > > - If you are using a distro that was released in 2006 or later, > - it should be safe to say N here. > + If you are using an OpenSuSE, Gentoo, Ubuntu, or Fedora > + release from 2007 or later, it should be safe to say N here. > + > + If you are using Debian or other distros that are slow to > + update HAL, please say Y here. What HAL version do you think Debian ought to have, pray tell? And what the hell version do those other distros have? The last HAL release was 0.5.8 on 11-Sep-2006. It showed up in Debian/unstable on 2-Oct. There have been six Debian bugfix releases, the most recent on 12-Feb. http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/dist/ http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/h/hal/hal_0.5.8.1-6.1/changelog The last NetworkManager is 0.6.4 released 13-Jul-2006. It showed up in Debian/unstable on 8-Aug. There have been five bugfix releases, the most recent on 30-Nov. http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/0.6/ http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_0.6.4-6/changelog Debian is NOT the problem. -- Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.