Return-path: Received: from cvs.openbsd.org ([199.185.137.3]:29290 "EHLO cvs.openbsd.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1767296AbXDEXyN (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Apr 2007 19:54:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200704052351.l35Np3NM024755@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Michael Buesch cc: Johannes Berg , Stefano Brivio , "Luis R. Rodriguez" , Pavel Roskin , Joseph Jezak , Marcus Glocker , Jon Simola , Theo de Raadt , Martin Langer , Danny van Dyk , Andreas Jaggi , Larry Finger , Quaker.Fang@sun.com, John Linville , Greg kh , bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, license-violation@gpl-violations.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD bcw: Possible GPL license violation issues In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Apr 2007 01:46:57 +0200." <200704060146.58537.mb@bu3sch.de> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:51:03 -0600 From: Theo de Raadt Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Please get your developers off our mailing list, attacking our users with one liners. Or should I perhaps just add a cc to misc in future mails? --- Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:14:59 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Delfino?=" To: misc Subject: Re: bcw(4) is gone In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1175801803.3226.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46156961.9000209@presscom.net> <4d90013f0704051513x75c5f0c0pe5e5802202953e8c@mail.gmail.com> <46157C1B.8080109@presscom.net> <4d90013f0704051551h69d6f7c4pb850fe630ccf0542@mail.gmail.com> X-Loop: misc@openbsd.org Precedence: list Sender: owner-misc@openbsd.org On 4/5/07, Steven Harms wrote: > This isnt a question of him being wrong, its a question of HOW IT WAS > HANDLED. Get it? > > The simple courtesy of privately emailing someone would have taken 30 > seconds and would have saved everyone a bunch of time, energy, and > embarrassment. > > On 4/5/07, Andris Delfino wrote: > > On 4/5/07, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > > > Andris Delfino wrote: > > > > What's wrong? They protect their license. Period. > > > > > > Did you read the full tread first before you wrote this? Did you look at > > > the code in CVS, did you even see Marcus reply and why? > > > > > > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/1573 > > > > > > I don't think you did! > > > > > > He sure did a hell of a huge amount of work that was his, and original > > > for your own benefit, and the only mistakes he may have done was to try > > > to work on it faster then he may should have and wrongly include > > > temporary files to help in the process! > > > > > > Should he had finish his work in a later time and not try to make this > > > available sooner to us, then nothing would have been said on this. > > > > > > In any case a simple private email to him directly would have been the > > > decent human being things to do, but I guess you don't even get that do > you? > > > > > > Just like I said before. > > > > > > Where the hell is the open community is going these days, I have no > > > clue... Look to me it sure enjoy destroy itself for sure. > > > > > > I am lost for words! > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he was wrong. He shouldn't base his work in copylefted > > software (if he intend to release the result as non-copylefted). > > > > Licenses are licenses. > > > > > > He should realized that he couldn't do that... get it? Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:14:59 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Delfino?=" To: misc Subject: Re: bcw(4) is gone In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1175801803.3226.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46156961.9000209@presscom.net> <4d90013f0704051513x75c5f0c0pe5e5802202953e8c@mail.gmail.com> <46157C1B.8080109@presscom.net> <4d90013f0704051551h69d6f7c4pb850fe630ccf0542@mail.gmail.com> X-Loop: misc@openbsd.org Precedence: list Sender: owner-misc@openbsd.org On 4/5/07, Steven Harms wrote: > This isnt a question of him being wrong, its a question of HOW IT WAS > HANDLED. Get it? > > The simple courtesy of privately emailing someone would have taken 30 > seconds and would have saved everyone a bunch of time, energy, and > embarrassment. > > On 4/5/07, Andris Delfino wrote: > > On 4/5/07, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > > > Andris Delfino wrote: > > > > What's wrong? They protect their license. Period. > > > > > > Did you read the full tread first before you wrote this? Did you look at > > > the code in CVS, did you even see Marcus reply and why? > > > > > > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/1573 > > > > > > I don't think you did! > > > > > > He sure did a hell of a huge amount of work that was his, and original > > > for your own benefit, and the only mistakes he may have done was to try > > > to work on it faster then he may should have and wrongly include > > > temporary files to help in the process! > > > > > > Should he had finish his work in a later time and not try to make this > > > available sooner to us, then nothing would have been said on this. > > > > > > In any case a simple private email to him directly would have been the > > > decent human being things to do, but I guess you don't even get that do > you? > > > > > > Just like I said before. > > > > > > Where the hell is the open community is going these days, I have no > > > clue... Look to me it sure enjoy destroy itself for sure. > > > > > > I am lost for words! > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he was wrong. He shouldn't base his work in copylefted > > software (if he intend to release the result as non-copylefted). > > > > Licenses are licenses. > > > > > > He should realized that he couldn't do that... get it?