Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:35:29 -0700 (PDT)
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From: Stephen Clark <Stephen.Clark@seclark.us>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:30:16 -0400

> I find it really sad that a hardware vendor that is willing to write
> and develope drivers for Linux for their hardware aren't helped more
> by "the community" or is the "the community" only interested in
> hacking drivers where the manufacturer give no or minimal support?

This is a massive mischaracterization of reality.

I agree with every statement Jeff has made, Intel really is a problem
child in this area, and consistently so.

The only way we could "help them" more is to take over the code base
and do the development for them.

The thing you should find truly sad is how Intel handles these
situations time and time again, rather than the tireless attempts of
Jeff and others to education them on how to improve the situation.