Return-path: Received: from 74-93-104-97-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([74.93.104.97]:46720 "EHLO sunset.davemloft.net" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758897AbXGYBS4 (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:18:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20070724.181855.102576897.davem@davemloft.net> To: Stephen.Clark@seclark.us Cc: jeff@garzik.org, jketreno@linux.intel.com, axjslack@bluebottle.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ipw3945-devel] Request for help... From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <46A6A1F7.202@seclark.us> References: <46A69CA1.5020706@seclark.us> <20070724.174641.105428420.davem@davemloft.net> <46A6A1F7.202@seclark.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: From: Stephen Clark Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:05:59 -0400 [ ipw3945-devel removed from CC: as it's subscriber only ] > I understand what you are saying on one hand, but you are also > saying that Intel is by themselves and no one in the community is > going to help, if Intel can't figure out how to do it the right way. The Intel developers are not a bunch of neophytes who need their hands held in this kind of situation, stop making it seem this way. It doesn't take a genius nor an enormous amount of effort to post one's work on the appropriate mailing list, in a timely and appropriate manner. What Intel is doing is hurting users just like you, whether you choose to see that or not. Again, you are massively mischaracterizing the situation, and this has the potential to mislead people, so I will sit here for days and refute you if that is what it takes. Jeff should be applauded, instead of put down, for his endless patience with Intel and the effort he puts forth to educate them.