Return-path: Received: from smtp146.iad.emailsrvr.com ([207.97.245.146]:48542 "EHLO smtp146.iad.emailsrvr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751513AbXGGRZy (ORCPT ); Sat, 7 Jul 2007 13:25:54 -0400 Message-ID: <468FCC4A.2010102@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:24:26 -0400 From: Daniel Drake MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johannes Berg CC: Jon Smirl , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Errors when firmware is missing References: <9e4733910707070927l37bdf79cpd1fc672909fb0bb3@mail.gmail.com> <1183826476.3779.42.camel@johannes.berg> In-Reply-To: <1183826476.3779.42.camel@johannes.berg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Johannes Berg wrote: > that for zd1211 > no device is created is probably counter-productive, that way userspace > will never know that a wireless adapter is plugged in. This is fixed for zd1211rw in my latest bunch of patches. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me if future hardware/drivers are not able to create an interface before loading firmware. It implies that you have a way of reading the MAC address before uploading firmware. I only figured this out for zd1211 by reverse engineering the boot code to an extent. Daniel