Return-path: Received: from crystal.sipsolutions.net ([195.210.38.204]:42276 "EHLO sipsolutions.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1762139AbXGKJlB (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:41:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Monitor mode with RTL8187 From: Johannes Berg To: Michael Buesch Cc: Stefan Schweizer , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200707101050.17043.mb@bu3sch.de> References: <59abf66e0707091451p3913ba5enf35edd934840b3cb@mail.gmail.com> <4693176F.6070407@warmcat.com> <200707101050.17043.mb@bu3sch.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-qAg25Xfg+a/Y4tl+ET8H" Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:02:14 +0200 Message-Id: <1184108535.3738.32.camel@johannes.berg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --=-qAg25Xfg+a/Y4tl+ET8H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 10:50 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > > Seems usability has not yet reached wireless configuration - where it i= s imo > > much needed. >=20 > ehm, setting the mode means setting the mode. Not bringing the device > up, changing channels or something like that. > The time where some wireless config commands magically trigger unrelated > events (ESSID setting triggers assoc) is over, with the advent of cfg8021= 1. > And that is _good_. Seconded. usability =E2=89=A0 magic, I'd go as far as saying that magic exc= ludes usability. also, usability =E2=88=89 kernel :) johannes --=-qAg25Xfg+a/Y4tl+ET8H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Johannes Berg (powerbook) iD8DBQBGlA/2/ETPhpq3jKURAu0/AJ98BCZIvHyw5ecMtXQRGZlxXOdfHgCguwT5 ygwTmawyP0pCSlwcbhateKw= =l1WO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qAg25Xfg+a/Y4tl+ET8H--