Return-path: Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.177]:50875 "EHLO py-out-1112.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756117AbYAGUyx (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:54:53 -0500 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so12808504pyb.10 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:54:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43e72e890801071254o49f16885ubce452e5687f915c@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20080107_205456_343448_B22E651D) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:54:49 -0500 From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" To: "Forest Bond" Subject: Re: VT6656 driver source available from VIA Cc: "John W. Linville" , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <43e72e890801071247w4f25de53v1b5f09828fcb840c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 References: <20070919193743.GA14127@storm.local.network> <20071101190711.GB17825@storm.local.network> <20071101191250.GE14943@tuxdriver.com> <20071105020730.GA4414@storm.local.network> <20071114170051.GD23778@storm.local.network> <20071114170634.GC6226@tuxdriver.com> <20080107184949.GI18550@storm.local.network> <43e72e890801071220r33401a6cg30a0bf4fc391b452@mail.gmail.com> <20080107203101.GA4599@storm.local.network> <43e72e890801071247w4f25de53v1b5f09828fcb840c@mail.gmail.com> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Jan 7, 2008 3:47 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > On Jan 7, 2008 3:31 PM, Forest Bond wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:20:02PM -0500, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > > On Jan 7, 2008 1:49 PM, Forest Bond wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:06:34PM -0500, John W. Linville wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:00:51PM -0500, Forest Bond wrote: > > > > >> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 09:07:31PM -0500, Forest Bond wrote: > > > > >>> The post is here: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=78745 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Any noise that can be contributed is welcome and appreciated. You'll need > > > > >>> to create an account to post, though. > > > > > > > > > >> I also added these. Perhaps having plenty of content/links regarding this > > > > >> issue will help to increase visibility: > > > > >> > > > > >> http://www.alittletooquiet.net/text/a-license-for-the-via-vt6656-linux-driver/ > > > > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/162671 > > > > > > > > > > Excellent...I appreciate your efforts as an agitator! :-) > > > > > > > > At this point I am not anticipating positive results WRT this endeavor, and am > > > > unable to pursue further assistance from VIA. Further, I've seen that the > > > > driver in question likely exhibits some interesting quirks that makes it > > > > difficult to use. It is also bit-rotting out of relevance. > > > > > > This is unfortunate to hear... > > > > > > > Can the driver be used as a reference for a fresh implementation? I've not > > > > written a driver before, but would be open to the possibility. > > > > > > IANAL but I believe It basically depends on the license the vendor > > > issued the driver under and its sources under. If no license was used > > > then I believe the standard copyright license terms should be assumed. > > > What license was used throughout the driver files? > > > > > > > What are the legal ramifications of a driver author having access to > > > > proprietary source code? > > > > > > Again, I believe it depends on the license/NDA/terms under which the > > > driver author obtained access to such proprietary source code. The > > > more details you provide the better. > > > > The license was omitted. This was presumably an oversight, but intentions are > > always hard to know when the other party isn't saying anything :) > > I'm calling their offices now, we should be able to just talk to > someone from their dev team... Well this sucks... just FYI, http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=78745 this is the page you started on viaarena for this. It is no longer up. I now get a "Page not found" Luis