Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:35742 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752740AbYAYRsL (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:48:11 -0500 Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.24-rc7 From: Dan Williams To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Michael Buesch , Johannes Berg , "John W. Linville" , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <1201264166.12870.16.camel@johannes.berg> <200801251723.58891.mb@bu3sch.de> <1201282027.3422.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:42:52 -0500 Message-Id: <1201282972.3422.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> (sfid-20080125_174821_158490_44B67213) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 09:38 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Dan Williams wrote: > > > > Does Intel need to make iwlwifi and ipw2x00 work reliably on platforms > > other than x86? Or don't they? > > Why should they? > > If somebody else takes over maintenance, because Intel does a bad job, > that's fine. > > If somebody else sends in patches and they get accepted "around" Intel, > that's obviously also fine. > > But complaining about a vendor who does a good job technically, for > non-technical reasons, I really don't see that as being fine. > > Is it even physically *possible* to use that Intel wireless chipset with > anything but x86 CPU's (not just that, but actually _Intel_ x86 CPU's)? > And would it make any sense what-so-ever even if it was? Yeah, 3945 and 4965 cards are mini PCI-E these days. And there are ipw2100, ipw2200, and ipw2915 mini PCI cards that you could stick in embedded systems and such. Though of course everyone doing embedded stuff uses either Atheros or PrismII still, certainly not ipw/iwl. This discussion occurred on May 18 - May 21, 2007 on linux-wireless with the thread heading "[PATCH] Add iwlwifi wireless drivers [part 2/2]". Dan > And yes, portability is a great thing, but quite frankly, so is good > hardware. I personally can't really blame Intel engineers for not caring > about irrelevant hardware. > > We should make technical decisions on _technical_ grounds, not some > perceived "this is how the world should work" grounds. > > Linus