Return-path: Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.180]:37579 "EHLO wa-out-1112.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757046AbYBDUBK (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:01:10 -0500 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so3105278wah.23 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:01:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1ba2fa240802041201o11107a8o14b969bacdf5345@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20080204_200116_589977_5FD2BA17) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:01:09 +0200 From: "Tomas Winkler" To: "Kalle Valo" Subject: Re: cfg80211 API changes Cc: "Sam Leffler" , "Johannes Berg" , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, "Ron Rindjunsky" In-Reply-To: <87zlug4m8p.fsf@nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <1ba2fa240802030539h132c7365g1bc1c20b1c560c0@mail.gmail.com> <1ba2fa240802030555v28873634wceff4ecea67d3530@mail.gmail.com> <1202049444.4188.125.camel@johannes.berg> <1ba2fa240802030651x58ab6c63yd1b4d9ccaa2ecd42@mail.gmail.com> <87ve55b74j.fsf@nokia.com> <47A74923.8040201@errno.com> <87zlug4m8p.fsf@nokia.com> Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Feb 4, 2008 8:20 PM, Kalle Valo wrote: > Sam Leffler writes: > > >>> I see. Rate scale algorithm only tels FW from what rate to start > >>> transmission. FW is responsible to do downscaling. Which is quite > >>> reasonable as retransmission is real time process. Instead of > >>> retransmitting on the same rate FW downscales. T X response provides > >>> to the rate scaling algorithm the successful rate. > >> > >> I just want to point out this is an important feature when the bus is > >> very slow, for example SPI bus in embedded devices. Retransfering > >> frames through SPI for every rate restransmit would make such a device > >> extremely slow. > > > > I don't know of a part that does repeated DMA to implement retransmit; > > do you have an example? > > Asking me? No, I have never heard of such a device. > Actually what is probably happening with some devices, I'm not sure though, they retries in FW/HW but do not downscale. Tomas > Kalle Valo >