Return-path: Received: from crystal.sipsolutions.net ([195.210.38.204]:50086 "EHLO sipsolutions.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754332AbYDSNvr (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:51:47 -0400 Subject: Re: RE: iwl3945 problem with 2.6.25-rc9 From: Johannes Berg To: Vincent C Jones Cc: Tomas Winkler , Brian Morrison , linux-wireless , Dan Williams In-Reply-To: <1208612902.26186.23.camel@johannes.berg> (sfid-20080419_144855_272045_BB1CE2BE) References: <1208555842.4848.56.camel@johannes.berg> <20080418232358.000fbdf7@peterson.fenrir.org.uk> <1208558255.4848.60.camel@johannes.berg> <1208558382.4848.63.camel@johannes.berg> <1ba2fa240804181728u7a3440cajbba7dcc696d02909@mail.gmail.com> <1208593973.26186.2.camel@johannes.berg> <1208608786.3980.7.camel@X61.NetworkingUnlimited.com> <1208610565.26186.17.camel@johannes.berg> <1208612641.3980.31.camel@X61.NetworkingUnlimited.com> <1208612902.26186.23.camel@johannes.berg> (sfid-20080419_144855_272045_BB1CE2BE) Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-idqIGLylCYjbZZeyOcli" Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:51:31 +0200 Message-Id: <1208613091.26186.26.camel@johannes.berg> (sfid-20080419_145158_595407_A63CFFA9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --=-idqIGLylCYjbZZeyOcli Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I'll leave it up to you (collective you, not necessarily a personal > > you), how to best deal with associating with APs which are not > > broadcasting their SSIDs. I agree with you (personal you this time) tha= t > > roaming around the country broadcasting those SSIDs does not seem > > particularly desirable. So how should the ability to connect to non SSI= D > > broadcasting APs be implemented?=20 >=20 > I would probably list, in network-manager, "I found (a) hidden > network(s)" and ask the user for an SSID to scan for actively at that > particular time, rather than trying to scan for all previously known > SSIDs even if those networks weren't hidden, as windows laptops (at > least those with Intel hardware but I haven't seen many others) seem to > do. Or it could remember the BSSID and when it encounters the BSSID again scan it actively to see if it still has the same (albeit hidden) SSID. My N810 behaves that way too, incidentally, it seems to first scan broadcast but if you then don't select a network quickly it starts scanning all networks directedly that it has previously saved. johannes --=-idqIGLylCYjbZZeyOcli Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Johannes Berg (powerbook) iQIVAwUASAn44qVg1VMiehFYAQKRVxAAlav+hl8E//Wh4go822eVkwiKjC6FfA1X bphGt4368jVmpnW8+9wmj14/YQaG5xv48w8/GUHl2qFfMPQwq/TovVLZwoPnAUs9 VUVVL8DIrMFNMvibtpNA4ySMQSe29uohi5l2RQk9Qd7t+RQgCuN+arFAgVi+cFjJ zkISpaYDxjR2cnZYfcNBax+e+tw9mh4BxiCh4QDPyySP5dW84p/vq6t4I1Uio4Se X84uRFBEou1Pg8k3NQdoW7cZzK3W4pr57+D6hWfZT73YyKWFQKwlmhNSbyJgiWfB zBNPe5/Kc2DRIES9TD4lgU70LMoNEvTzTZP5NumQze/pQGGBso6TJ/2VDO5Kmcfu GYzPtYgiQkwXstkLo4l3xuPnRbwTxR0DZ+aiPnJCIwerwg7lDGl+KXLAKrJ+igw9 clYcGnhIsQN5tz7/s8PgDK/A22CZJijZLqAlJfIP5v3D8TDS6UZ95IFaaDKGvtl9 FepNP7evb6Fnad9l9rumD2zlfn5X9yNYfT28D/j0KfL7ibjPvU7V9KmjJ4Uviffh ZOykeEjDUD23D7HJhteKM2s/Zvnh7UkESZewvmRNxDEtEip0MaucAt0z+kcwC1xd dwzWAk1iLwMGr14Tvr6Y3JF00dfSyX2fbJQ1yCnm8uMmDJsTQzmaIy7N1RYX4QBM 6Dyq3DkIx3s= =N1Tk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-idqIGLylCYjbZZeyOcli--