Return-path: Received: from madara.hpl.hp.com ([192.6.19.124]:57657 "EHLO madara.hpl.hp.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753694AbYESRPv (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2008 13:15:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:03:47 -0700 To: Dan Williams Cc: Johannes Berg , Marcel Holtmann , netdev , Jean Tourrilhes , linux-wireless , Linux Kernel list Subject: Re: [RFC] make wext wireless bits optional and deprecate them Message-ID: <20080519170347.GB21500@bougret.hpl.hp.com> (sfid-20080519_191605_021178_34815BBE) Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <1211026337.3827.25.camel@johannes.berg> <1211032475.6252.2.camel@johannes.berg> <1211117795.686.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1211199368.6252.19.camel@johannes.berg> <1211210686.12187.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <1211210686.12187.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:24:46AM -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 14:16 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote: > > > Instead of testing for wireless/, best thing would probably be to call > > > SIOCGIWRANGE on the device and if it returns EOPNOTSUP then it's not > > > wireless. Some drivers may have to load firmware to figure out > > > supported rates and encryption capabilities, but to be honest, NM does > > > this to detect wireless devices and I haven't run into any issues in 4 > > > years using it. If there are issues with drivers, then we need to fix > > > the driver too. > > > > I was about to propose calling SIOCGIWNAME since that is what > > wireless-tools do and that linux/wireless.h indicates. > > Hmm; NAME is pretty useless. That's fine to do, I guess WEXT requires > that NAME return _something_ at least. NAME should never ever be used > for anything more, but since wireless-tools appears to do this that's > fine. > > Dan It's not useless, it's supposed to tell you about the protocol capability of the device, like "IEEE 802.11b" or "IEEE 802.11abg". Have fun... Jean