Return-path: Received: from bu3sch.de ([62.75.166.246]:38797 "EHLO vs166246.vserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751444AbYG1OBC (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:01:02 -0400 From: Michael Buesch To: Luis Carlos Cobo Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] mac80211: allow no mac address until firmware load Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:00:38 +0200 Cc: Johannes Berg , Dan Williams , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org References: <48763814.27052c0a.1794.2095@mx.google.com> <200807281544.33509.mb@bu3sch.de> <1217253397.6364.2.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1217253397.6364.2.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Message-Id: <200807281600.39103.mb@bu3sch.de> (sfid-20080728_160105_327795_D749D980) Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Monday 28 July 2008 15:56:37 Luis Carlos Cobo wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:44 +0200, Michael Buesch wrote: > > Well, I think that really is pretty weird and it is confusing to the > > user to see that pseudo random MAC that changes suddenly when the device is > > initialized. For the human user (so everybody but me), it would be better > > to have the MAC all-zeros until the firmware loaded. So it would be obvious > > that the MAC is not set, yet. I think userspace > > The problem is that all-zeroes is actually a valid mac address, owned by > Xerox (http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/oui.txt) Not that it will > probably cause us any problem, but a multicast address is afaik an > invalid mac for a device. Should we go for 01:allzeros? If that's really a problem, yes. 01:00:00:00:00:00 is still better than a pseudo random MAC, IMO. It's immediately obvious to the user that the MAC currently is not set. -- Greetings Michael.